This is a first for me...
 

REDUNDANCY

middle management: we were supposed to make 2 million quid this year, and we've only made 800,000... so we're going to have to make some people redundant.

Me: great, who didn't see that one coming?


Bosses lick balls to be quite fking honest. My colleague and I have until Wednesday this week to take voluntary redundancy or they choose who goes on our behalf...

Brass handshakes all round :down:

It's the kick you out of a job season jumpy, just in time for Christmas. I know what it feels like gone though it three times and I too am now facing a fourth time, conformation next or the week after in the big meeting. We have been told we all lost our pensions but in my case I opted out when I joined as I already gone though that process.

yeah it is crappy get a job where they cant make you redundant, like my job always needing bin men to work the rounds its not too bad pay either but cant make me redundant.

I have sympathy.
/postal worker blog

stupid idea, I have...
 

I know that situation too.
But for one thing you can be sure:

2 millions planned, 800k achieved, that is roughly about 50%.
50% leads us to one you two has to go, OK. I understand this calculation.
BUT:
50% cut in mid-level management ???
50% cut in big-boss-pay-check???

An idea:
Offer both of you to leave (this makes 100% to save money, should make the big-boss happy) and go both to the competition?

^^
hehe, this is sort of what we've discussed amongst ourselves. Neither of us will be comfortable remaining in an unpleasent situation at work, with the spectre of further redundancy lurking around the next corner.

TBH I find the whole thing to be something to be turned to my advantage = get a better paid job elsewhere after the prefect "reason for leaving your last job" you can't very well say 'because it were ***t!' now can you? :lol:

And to top this all off today, my better half is in hospital having her sinuses cleaned out and enlarged slightly. So from about 8pm UK time, I've been sat with my nearest and dearest whilst she has been coughing up blood like you wouldn't believe, bleeding out of her eyes, not her nose as this is packed with gauze etc :o. As part of an on-going problem, she would have had to wait another 7 months to have it done on the NHS, but is cost 4 days in time to arrange and £2112.00 to have it done in a private hospital. You get better treatment and care if you pay for it, that's for sure.

All round perfect timing for a redundancy eh? Bunch of c**** that they are.

Being partially redundant is an OK thing. You can make the mistake in which you become indispensable, and in that case, you get a glass ceiling put over your head. You will never get laid off, but you will also never get promoted. Stuck in a dead end job forever unless you physically change it. Redundancy has it's plus side.

-S

I hear that.

My farther had a choice NHS waiting time one year and no guarantee or BUPA at the cost of £4000 odd pounds and be operated in less than a month he went private. Another year of a lot of pain waiting on the NHS was no way, so much for the Labour promises which turned out to be lies.

Hope your wife is alright jumpy. :up:

Excuse my ignorance, is this the same as being voluntarily "laid off" versus "We terminate your employment"?

What it means you say bye, bye and they don't have the burden to lay you off, I say give them the burden that's why they get the big money.

I agree... Give 'em the burden, and maybe a little heartburn to go with it... :smug:

My last (and final) job as an IT Admin required me to write down the various username/passwords used throughout the network, routers, firewalls, servers, etc., and give them to my (former) boss.

I got "terminated" without notice and management used the "poor job performance" excuse, even after I had received a substantial raise and a glowing evaluation not two months earlier and had managed a $250K ERP upgrade project and brought it in under budget

Anyway, my (former) boss called me up about a month after I left because he needed the passwords to the routers and firewall. I asked him why and he said "he misplaced them"... He was hoping I would "do him a favor"...

I told him it would cost them $10K for me to come back and take care of the problem as a consultant because I didn't work for them anymore...

Obviously this is not a pleasant situation to be in, and both my missus and myself have been in it too in the past. But what is compensatory, is the knowledge that if the company was trying to save money in letting you go, it's the beginning of a downward spiral for them, and their situation will not be improved by the loss of you or your colleague, both of whom will take all their experience out of the door too when they go.

Typically what will happen is that the company will realise that they really did need two people, and so will attempt to get someone in for a lot less money. And when they pay peanuts, they will of course get a monkey. What they really should address is the management who failed in getting enough work for both you and your colleague in the first place, but of course it was their decision, so that never happens, still, rest assured that their time will come.

My wife Max read this over my shoulder and concurred with me that frankly, if you are with a company like that, apart from the pain in the ass of switching jobs and a relatively short period of difficulty while that happens, you're better off out of there.

'Sit back and laugh your ass off when they all lose their jobs in three months time, like I did!' - that was a quote from my wife. Who now does work she used to do at that company, but as freelancer, and gets paid twice as much for doing it in half the time:rotfl:

:D Chock

Thanks for those encouraging words, all. :up:
Missy is back home and propped up amongst loads of pillows on the sofa, like some latter day elder duchess. When I have a minute to spare from running about looking after her, I shall fill you in on the work things as it stands after tomorrow.:D

@Jumpy .. redundancy always looks better on your C.V.
@Kapitan .. this is a situation I think you will understand as we are in similar careers LOL
The 'Mob' I'm working for have 2 wage structures .. the good one includes bonus and a 6 month sickness scheme with no loss of earnings
the bad one .. no bonus and no sick pay [or any pay] for the first 3 days then you have to submit a Doctor's note then keep your fingers crossed for a Month.
How did this happen ?
In house lost the contract to Onyx which had the good stuff then after X amount of years, lost the Contract [for whatever reason put will probably involve money] back to In house. A 'Governing Body' stipulated that In house had to keep on the men with the good stuff they had with Onyx which they agreed to; what came after took or left the other structure. I am one of these and at the moment, I'm working on a Month to Month Contract = makes for many a sleepless night !
As a result of this 2 tier system, you have guys [sorry Pen] who take a sickie anytime they like with no loss of earnings and others limping along and falling asleep in the Cab due to working 6-2, 10 days on a trot on flat rate to get a half decent salary.
Just a little 'food for thought'.