What distance do you usually launch torpedos at?

Spruence M · 09-09-07, 02:37 PM

On the question about depth readings: I always thought that the enemy destoryers would hear the sonar, so I always took my depth reading when I knew that they already had my position, or as a torpedo exploded so they would be distracted.

I have always tried to keep my eels under 1km, but there are times when you cannot get close enough to a target to fall under such strict ruling. A tip when firing from long range, stay undetected, and dont fire from long range if you have been detected. Once they know you are there, they will begin to zig zag, and any chance of making a long range hit are shot. No Pun Intended.

3Jane · 09-09-07, 02:53 PM

3000 my generaly prefered maximum range, although I have used longer ranges. I much prefer 2000 though, but not too much under. Maybe down to 1500 if there is no time to try for another shot. I like to have a little time to reach even a moderate depth before they impact.

melnibonian · 09-09-07, 03:06 PM

Early in the war I fired them 800-1200m away from the target. From 1944 onwards I never get closer than 3500-4000m, as I want to get my boat back to base

Canovaro · 09-09-07, 03:12 PM

3Jane makes a good point.
Firing from close distance has two pro's: you are far more likely to hit the target where you want it to be hit, plus the chance that a torpedoes goes boom before reaching the target is very small.
But when you are targeting a convoy with escorts swirling around, it is another story. You definitely want the longest time between the moment you dive and the moment the torpedoes hit the target, because you want to be as deep as possible from that moment.

Personally I fire at single merchants between 500 and 1000 meters.
In convoys, That's usually 1000-2500.

The other question...I haven't tried that out, but I heard ppl say yes and others say no.

frenema · 09-09-07, 03:32 PM

3000km? How do you guys get the ship's distance accurately at such distances? Especially in rough water. Do you guys use some other method other than the standard one?

melnibonian · 09-09-07, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by frenema

3000km? How do you guys get the ship's distance accurately at such distances? Especially in rough water. Do you guys use some other method other than the standard one?

Not really. If you're undetected and the ship is moving in a straight course you can hit it accuratelly up to 4.5Km away. Usually I fire two torpedoes in these cases just to be sure

Brag · 09-09-07, 04:34 PM

First the easy answer. You should know your depth under the keel well in advance of attacking escorted ships. So no need to ping the bottom with escorts trying to locate you.

As to torpedoes, I like 600 meters.

I've made a couple of shots at approx. 3,000 meters and got hits.

WolfOfCampscapel · 09-09-07, 07:20 PM

I've hit fast runners from 6km off under perfect conditions. Very enjoyable. Two fishes, of course, in case of duds.

Maraz · 09-10-07, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by melnibonian

Not really. If you're undetected and the ship is moving in a straight course you can hit it accuratelly up to 4.5Km away. Usually I fire two torpedoes in these cases just to be sure

Manual or automatic targeting?

I use fully manual targeting (*) and I find difficult hitting ships beyond 1500m, my usual firing range is usually around 800m, surely when war progresses coming so near will be more and more difficult.

In some cases I got hits even from 2000-2500m but I felt I was pressing my luck too far...

(*) ship's speed and course calculated either by plotting or by matching speed.

Maraz

Cezbor · 09-10-07, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Maraz

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Originally Posted by melnibonian

Not really. If you're undetected and the ship is moving in a straight course you can hit it accuratelly up to 4.5Km away. Usually I fire two torpedoes in these cases just to be sure

Manual or automatic targeting?

I use fully manual targeting (*) and I find difficult hitting ships beyond 1500m, my usual firing range is usually around 800m, surely when war progresses coming so near will be more and more difficult.

In some cases I got hits even from 2000-2500m but I felt I was pressing my luck too far...

(*) ship's speed and course calculated either by plotting or by matching speed.

Maraz

Use your WO, his a real sniper

, but .... the limitation is that your target has to be locked on for a few seconds, and sometimes it's hard to achieve. I prefer automatic targeting. In that case hitting targets from long distances is quite easy (after some training), but using manual targetting ... hm... 4000 m. may be possible but hard. Frankly, never tried manual on distances above 3000 m.

XLjedi · 09-09-07, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by frenema

3000km? How do you guys get the ship's distance accurately at such distances? Especially in rough water. Do you guys use some other method other than the standard one?

Wow... 3000km

...that would be impressive. I guess you'd need like mirrors in space to see around the Earth for that shot.

Seriously though, if you fire at a 0°-gyro angle (or close to it) the distance doesn't matter; you can set it at 1000m and pretty much not worry about it.

melnibonian · 09-10-07, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by aaronblood

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Originally Posted by frenema

3000km? How do you guys get the ship's distance accurately at such distances? Especially in rough water. Do you guys use some other method other than the standard one?

Wow... 3000km

...that would be impressive. I guess you'd need like mirrors in space to see around the Earth for that shot.

Seriously though, if you fire at a 0°-gyro angle (or close to it) the distance doesn't matter; you can set it at 1000m and pretty much not worry about it.

It takes a bit of practice but it's not that difficult if you're not discovered. Don't forget that you have the element of surprise

Cezbor · 09-10-07, 03:11 AM

Firing distance depens on torpedo type. With Type I - II I prefer distaces up to 1000m. With Type III - 3000 m. Type VII -my most prefered distance- is 5000m. Many times I had to fire "multiplay lunch " at 7000 m. Yesterday I fired 4 torpedoes TVII at convoy (4 different ships), 4 hits from 7000 m. My prefered tactics is to stay silent and fire from long distance multiplay shots,

than use deck gun to finish my job.

XLjedi · 09-10-07, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by melnibonian

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Originally Posted by aaronblood

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Originally Posted by frenema

3000km? How do you guys get the ship's distance accurately at such distances? Especially in rough water. Do you guys use some other method other than the standard one?

Wow... 3000km

...that would be impressive. I guess you'd need like mirrors in space to see around the Earth for that shot.

Seriously though, if you fire at a 0°-gyro angle (or close to it) the distance doesn't matter; you can set it at 1000m and pretty much not worry about it.

It takes a bit of practice but it's not that difficult if you're not discovered. Don't forget that you have the element of surprise

Element of surprise or not... I can guarantee you're not gonna hit anything at 3000km.

C'mon, I was makin a joke there... mirrors... see around the Earth...

U-104 · 09-10-07, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by melnibonian

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Originally Posted by aaronblood

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Originally Posted by frenema

3000km? How do you guys get the ship's distance accurately at such distances? Especially in rough water. Do you guys use some other method other than the standard one?

Wow... 3000km

...that would be impressive. I guess you'd need like mirrors in space to see around the Earth for that shot.

Seriously though, if you fire at a 0°-gyro angle (or close to it) the distance doesn't matter; you can set it at 1000m and pretty much not worry about it.

It takes a bit of practice but it's not that difficult if you're not discovered. Don't forget that you have the element of surprise

i think he meant 3000m not 3000km.
i tend to shoot around 3000m also.

09-09-07, 02:53 PM	#2
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	3000 my generaly prefered maximum range, although I have used longer ranges. I much prefer 2000 though, but not too much under. Maybe down to 1500 if there is no time to try for another shot. I like to have a little time to reach even a moderate depth before they impact. __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan) Last edited by 3Jane; 09-09-07 at 06:05 PM.

09-09-07, 03:06 PM	#3
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Early in the war I fired them 800-1200m away from the target. From 1944 onwards I never get closer than 3500-4000m, as I want to get my boat back to base __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

09-09-07, 04:34 PM	#7
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	First the easy answer. You should know your depth under the keel well in advance of attacking escorted ships. So no need to ping the bottom with escorts trying to locate you. As to torpedoes, I like 600 meters. I've made a couple of shots at approx. 3,000 meters and got hits. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

09-10-07, 03:11 AM	#13
Cezbor 中国水兵 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bia³ystok, Polska Posts: 272 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Firing distance depens on torpedo type. With Type I - II I prefer distaces up to 1000m. With Type III - 3000 m. Type VII -my most prefered distance- is 5000m. Many times I had to fire "multiplay lunch " at 7000 m. Yesterday I fired 4 torpedoes TVII at convoy (4 different ships), 4 hits from 7000 m. My prefered tactics is to stay silent and fire from long distance multiplay shots, than use deck gun to finish my job. __________________ "U-106" No one will be forgotten...

09-09-07, 02:37 PM	#1
Spruence M Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 14 Meters Posts: 394 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	On the question about depth readings: I always thought that the enemy destoryers would hear the sonar, so I always took my depth reading when I knew that they already had my position, or as a torpedo exploded so they would be distracted. I have always tried to keep my eels under 1km, but there are times when you cannot get close enough to a target to fall under such strict ruling. A tip when firing from long range, stay undetected, and dont fire from long range if you have been detected. Once they know you are there, they will begin to zig zag, and any chance of making a long range hit are shot. No Pun Intended.

09-09-07, 03:12 PM	#4
Canovaro Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,062 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	3Jane makes a good point. Firing from close distance has two pro's: you are far more likely to hit the target where you want it to be hit, plus the chance that a torpedoes goes boom before reaching the target is very small. But when you are targeting a convoy with escorts swirling around, it is another story. You definitely want the longest time between the moment you dive and the moment the torpedoes hit the target, because you want to be as deep as possible from that moment. Personally I fire at single merchants between 500 and 1000 meters. In convoys, That's usually 1000-2500. The other question...I haven't tried that out, but I heard ppl say yes and others say no.

09-09-07, 03:32 PM	#5
frenema Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 116 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	3000km? How do you guys get the ship's distance accurately at such distances? Especially in rough water. Do you guys use some other method other than the standard one?

09-09-07, 07:20 PM	#8
WolfOfCampscapel Mate Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: In the fjords Posts: 58 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've hit fast runners from 6km off under perfect conditions. Very enjoyable. Two fishes, of course, in case of duds.