The bow torp of death.

TarJak · 07-26-07, 06:30 AM

If you follow Pen's advice you should get good rates of critical hits. One of the reasons you may be seeing very repeatable results is that the critical hit values are NOT reset each time you load a save game so looking at ShipA then saving going back and having another crack at it will give you the same critical hit values that you saved each time. If you ran a test with multiple ships then you would see some variation in the values for each ship in the test. The values are generated when the ship is spawned IIRC.

Nichren · 07-26-07, 08:55 AM

From the newbie guide thread

What are the differences between Auto and Manual Targeting

Well pretty much 2 things, in auto the game does all the work for you, its practicaly just point and shoot. Also with impact torpedos when using auto targeting, if the torpedo hits a section of a ship that has a critical explosion chance, you will get a critical explosion each and every time vs a random chance with manual.

So I take it that this is no longer applicable in GWX?????

Penelope_Grey · 07-26-07, 09:04 AM

No, automatic targeting is not quite just point and shoot, the difference is, with auto targeting, you don't need to work out range, speed of ship, or the AOB the computer does that part for you. Depth, pistol, and speed are determined by you.

It is point and fire to a degree, but if you just point the scope or Uzo at something and press fire you are still leaving a hell of a lot to chance. Even with automatic targeting you still need to get into a good firing position to the ship. You still need to make sure your torpedo is set to the right depth for optimal destruction, and you still need to get to firing position without spooking your target.

All in all, if you have not managed to get a good firing position the rest is useless.

Brag · 07-26-07, 09:10 AM

[quote=Penelope_
. . . You still need to make sure your torpedo is set to the right depth for optimal destruction, and you still need to get to firing position without spooking your target.

All in all, if you have not managed to get a good firing position the rest is useless.[/quote]

Yup! That's the whole secret of U-boat success

Jimbuna · 07-26-07, 09:35 AM

I know I'm on record on numerous other threads re: this topic but my preferred method is to aim for the aft or engine area (whether it be magnetic or impact setting).
The very least you can expect if the ship does not sink would be it coming to a halt, therefore making it a sitting duck for DG or a coupe de grace.
In a convoy situation the escorts would eventually leave it and get back to the job of escorting the convoy.
For those who want a hint where the sweet spots are (based on stock SH3) there is a file called 'shipchart' available from my sig.

07-26-07, 09:04 AM	#3
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No, automatic targeting is not quite just point and shoot, the difference is, with auto targeting, you don't need to work out range, speed of ship, or the AOB the computer does that part for you. Depth, pistol, and speed are determined by you. It is point and fire to a degree, but if you just point the scope or Uzo at something and press fire you are still leaving a hell of a lot to chance. Even with automatic targeting you still need to get into a good firing position to the ship. You still need to make sure your torpedo is set to the right depth for optimal destruction, and you still need to get to firing position without spooking your target. All in all, if you have not managed to get a good firing position the rest is useless. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

07-26-07, 09:10 AM	#4
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	[quote=Penelope_ . . . You still need to make sure your torpedo is set to the right depth for optimal destruction, and you still need to get to firing position without spooking your target. All in all, if you have not managed to get a good firing position the rest is useless.[/quote] Yup! That's the whole secret of U-boat success __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

07-26-07, 09:35 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,615 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I know I'm on record on numerous other threads re: this topic but my preferred method is to aim for the aft or engine area (whether it be magnetic or impact setting). The very least you can expect if the ship does not sink would be it coming to a halt, therefore making it a sitting duck for DG or a coupe de grace. In a convoy situation the escorts would eventually leave it and get back to the job of escorting the convoy. For those who want a hint where the sweet spots are (based on stock SH3) there is a file called 'shipchart' available from my sig. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-26-07, 06:30 AM	#1
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	If you follow Pen's advice you should get good rates of critical hits. One of the reasons you may be seeing very repeatable results is that the critical hit values are NOT reset each time you load a save game so looking at ShipA then saving going back and having another crack at it will give you the same critical hit values that you saved each time. If you ran a test with multiple ships then you would see some variation in the values for each ship in the test. The values are generated when the ship is spawned IIRC.

07-26-07, 08:55 AM	#2
Nichren Watch Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 15 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	From the newbie guide thread What are the differences between Auto and Manual Targeting Well pretty much 2 things, in auto the game does all the work for you, its practicaly just point and shoot. Also with impact torpedos when using auto targeting, if the torpedo hits a section of a ship that has a critical explosion chance, you will get a critical explosion each and every time vs a random chance with manual. So I take it that this is no longer applicable in GWX?????