It pays off to have strong repair crew

Brag · 07-02-07, 06:16 PM

30 January 1942 (GWX)

To BDU
From U-67
Position ET2744

Sustained heavy damage by Depth charges.
Forward compartments out of service. Flooding contained. Forward batteries destroyed,aft batteries destroyed. Attack periscope damaged. Port diesel damaged. Diesel compartment flooding contained. Flack guns damaged. Radio repaired. Funker dead.
Able to do 7 knots. Will attempt return to base.

===================

All the above was caused by a Flower. It made 3 accurate passes causing flooding, in diesel room, zentralle and forward compartments. It looked like we had the banana. Had to keep shifting the repair crew from one compartment to another to keep the compartments from flooding completely.

Weight of water has us in a slow dive, which we were able to slow by diving plane controls. Slowly were able to reduce flooding to where we were able to keep 140 meters. All this while being mercilesly depth charged. We'd fix a leak and another would spring.

The repair crew worked like dogs. With the batteries destroyed, had to husband the little electric power left. Finally was able to return to silent running and the fiend above us lost us.

Though severely crippled we were able to surface normally.
We are a long way from home. Thanks to a strong repair crew, we're still alive.

What is the key for burial at sea?
Poor funker.

Here's the screenie once things were stabilized and creeping away:

Redshirt · 07-02-07, 06:40 PM

One thing i noticed is you can allocate crew that arent on repair to flooding compartments and that seems to speed up the time to stop flooding or at least slow it down some - quite handy when things are going down hill fast!

And you can manually set the dive plane angle? Speak more of this snippet of wisdom... :p

bookworm_020 · 07-02-07, 06:41 PM

Double click on the dead salior and say yes to the burial at sea option. You might want to hoist a beer for him when you get home.

Brag · 07-02-07, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Redshirt

One thing i noticed is you can allocate crew that arent on repair to flooding compartments and that seems to speed up the time to stop flooding or at least slow it down some - quite handy when things are going down hill fast!

And you can manually set the dive plane angle? Speak more of this snippet of wisdom... :p

You can't set the dive planes manually. You can order a shallower depth and that will do it.

Redshirt · 07-02-07, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Brag

You can't set the dive planes manually. You can order a shallower depth and that will do it.

Ah rats

Iron Budokan · 07-02-07, 08:10 PM

I often see a lot of kaleuns who say they like to load up on torp men. Me? I go for the repair quals, and the more the merrier.

Deathfrombelow23 · 07-02-07, 09:05 PM

That begs the question... what is the most useful qualification to give your PO's? And what is the least useful? Obviously this is your opinion, but some people have great rationals behind their actions. Not counting the 2 machinists, 1 watch, 1 radio/sonar and 3 TORP PO's that I'm given at the start of my career in '41... I usually delete my medic PO and my Deck Gunner PO and bring in 2 newbies to replace them... so with a VIIC and 16 PO's... i usually like to add 1-2 TORP quals and 4-5 REPAIR quals... I haven't made it much farther than this in any of my careers, so I don't know what I would add to my other PO's. Suggestions? Also, what do you suggest adding to the 5 officers on the boat?

Iron Budokan · 07-02-07, 10:00 PM

Helmsman quals are totally useless, though I admit I use 'em for immersion purposes only. Repair, sonar, watch and torp quals are the most important, imo. Gun, flak, machinist and medic quals are kinda in the middle...important, but if need be you can live without 'em.

Repair is the big one, though. Not only can you have repair men in the damage management screen, but if you put 'em in other boat compartments they work there, too.

Schöneboom · 07-02-07, 10:07 PM

@ Deathfrombelow23,

As I see it, if you use SH3 Commander, you can hand out the qualifications like candy. Early in the war, when you get to run surfaced more of the time, I'd definitely add more watch quals at all levels (incld. at least 3 of your officers). Also 1 more senior PO with funk (sonar/radio). I have a few seamen & POs with repair quals, and will add more as needed. The only thing the torpedo rating adds to non-officers is that they can reload your eels more efficiently.

For the officers, I give each guy specific roles: the L.I. (Repair & Machinist), a 1WO (Watch & Torpedo), a 2WO (Watch & Artillery), & a Navigator (Watch, Nav, & Flak). In an emergency, any of them can mind the Zentrale while L.I. leads the Repair Team.

I hope that helps.

Brag · 07-02-07, 10:27 PM

The dead sailor was only malingering. He refused to go as we tried to bury him at sea. He was only wounded and got a medal for it. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

07-03-07, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brag

The dead sailor was only malingering. He refused to go as we tried to bury him at sea. He was only wounded and got a medal for it. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I wonder if any uboat crew buried their dead using the James Bond trick through the torpedo hatch

IrischKapitan · 07-03-07, 05:25 AM

Anyone seen the film U-571??
The shot a dead body out of the bow tube, and it floated to the surface, pursueing DD thought they were dead.
Maybe thats what you can do......

antikristuseke · 07-03-07, 06:06 AM

I agree on the need for a strong repair crew, last patroll i returned to port with the port diesel and both electrics destroyed, bow torpedoes gone, lost most of my diesel due to leaking, AA and deck gun gone. In other words encountered my first black swan of the war and managed to survive. Hull integrity was arround 20%, this is probably the only time ill ever be glad i was in sort of shallow waters when the attack took place, otherways i would have been crushed due to sinking because of flooding.

STEED · 07-03-07, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Double click on the dead salior and say yes to the burial at sea option. You might want to hoist a beer for him when you get home.

WHAT!!!!!

Hang on you jumped the gun there, the sailor only needs medical treatment. He's only dead when he is all red not just the outline.

STEED · 07-03-07, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrischKapitan

Anyone seen the film U-571??
The shot a dead body out of the bow tube, and it floated to the surface, pursueing DD thought they were dead.
Maybe thats what you can do......

Yep they fired out a lot of crap and a dead sailor is useful as a decoy, may fool a new destroyer captain but not a veteran.

07-02-07, 06:16 PM	#1
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	It pays off to have strong repair crew 30 January 1942 (GWX) To BDU From U-67 Position ET2744 Sustained heavy damage by Depth charges. Forward compartments out of service. Flooding contained. Forward batteries destroyed,aft batteries destroyed. Attack periscope damaged. Port diesel damaged. Diesel compartment flooding contained. Flack guns damaged. Radio repaired. Funker dead. Able to do 7 knots. Will attempt return to base. =================== All the above was caused by a Flower. It made 3 accurate passes causing flooding, in diesel room, zentralle and forward compartments. It looked like we had the banana. Had to keep shifting the repair crew from one compartment to another to keep the compartments from flooding completely. Weight of water has us in a slow dive, which we were able to slow by diving plane controls. Slowly were able to reduce flooding to where we were able to keep 140 meters. All this while being mercilesly depth charged. We'd fix a leak and another would spring. The repair crew worked like dogs. With the batteries destroyed, had to husband the little electric power left. Finally was able to return to silent running and the fiend above us lost us. Though severely crippled we were able to surface normally. We are a long way from home. Thanks to a strong repair crew, we're still alive. What is the key for burial at sea? Poor funker. Here's the screenie once things were stabilized and creeping away: __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/ Last edited by Brag; 07-02-07 at 09:18 PM.

07-02-07, 06:40 PM	#2
Redshirt Bosun Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 64 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	One thing i noticed is you can allocate crew that arent on repair to flooding compartments and that seems to speed up the time to stop flooding or at least slow it down some - quite handy when things are going down hill fast! And you can manually set the dive plane angle? Speak more of this snippet of wisdom... :p __________________ Reds under the bed!

07-02-07, 06:41 PM	#3
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Double click on the dead salior and say yes to the burial at sea option. You might want to hoist a beer for him when you get home. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

07-02-07, 08:10 PM	#6
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I often see a lot of kaleuns who say they like to load up on torp men. Me? I go for the repair quals, and the more the merrier. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

07-02-07, 10:00 PM	#8
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Helmsman quals are totally useless, though I admit I use 'em for immersion purposes only. Repair, sonar, watch and torp quals are the most important, imo. Gun, flak, machinist and medic quals are kinda in the middle...important, but if need be you can live without 'em. Repair is the big one, though. Not only can you have repair men in the damage management screen, but if you put 'em in other boat compartments they work there, too. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

07-02-07, 09:05 PM	#7
Deathfrombelow23 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 134 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	That begs the question... what is the most useful qualification to give your PO's? And what is the least useful? Obviously this is your opinion, but some people have great rationals behind their actions. Not counting the 2 machinists, 1 watch, 1 radio/sonar and 3 TORP PO's that I'm given at the start of my career in '41... I usually delete my medic PO and my Deck Gunner PO and bring in 2 newbies to replace them... so with a VIIC and 16 PO's... i usually like to add 1-2 TORP quals and 4-5 REPAIR quals... I haven't made it much farther than this in any of my careers, so I don't know what I would add to my other PO's. Suggestions? Also, what do you suggest adding to the 5 officers on the boat?

07-02-07, 10:07 PM	#9
Schöneboom Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 651 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	@ Deathfrombelow23, As I see it, if you use SH3 Commander, you can hand out the qualifications like candy. Early in the war, when you get to run surfaced more of the time, I'd definitely add more watch quals at all levels (incld. at least 3 of your officers). Also 1 more senior PO with funk (sonar/radio). I have a few seamen & POs with repair quals, and will add more as needed. The only thing the torpedo rating adds to non-officers is that they can reload your eels more efficiently. For the officers, I give each guy specific roles: the L.I. (Repair & Machinist), a 1WO (Watch & Torpedo), a 2WO (Watch & Artillery), & a Navigator (Watch, Nav, & Flak). In an emergency, any of them can mind the Zentrale while L.I. leads the Repair Team. I hope that helps. __________________ Dietrich Schöneboom, U-431 "Es wird klappen, Herr Kaleun. Ganz sicher." Last edited by Schöneboom; 07-02-07 at 11:09 PM.

07-02-07, 10:27 PM	#10
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The dead sailor was only malingering. He refused to go as we tried to bury him at sea. He was only wounded and got a medal for it. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

07-03-07, 05:25 AM	#12
IrischKapitan Ensign Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Waiting for convoys of the coast of Donegal Posts: 227 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Anyone seen the film U-571?? The shot a dead body out of the bow tube, and it floated to the surface, pursueing DD thought they were dead. Maybe thats what you can do...... __________________ ''Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better'' SAVE U 534!! http://www.atlantik-pirat.com/U-534page.htm

07-03-07, 06:06 AM	#13
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I agree on the need for a strong repair crew, last patroll i returned to port with the port diesel and both electrics destroyed, bow torpedoes gone, lost most of my diesel due to leaking, AA and deck gun gone. In other words encountered my first black swan of the war and managed to survive. Hull integrity was arround 20%, this is probably the only time ill ever be glad i was in sort of shallow waters when the attack took place, otherways i would have been crushed due to sinking because of flooding.