Uboat patrol length?

_Seth_ · 06-02-07, 05:07 AM

Something i have always wondered about....Is there any way to simulate realistic usage of supplies in SHIII? Like food & water, IE... This would add more realism besides fuel & torps..

Brag · 06-02-07, 05:35 AM

From what I have read, outside of quality, food was seldom an issue on long patrols. For water, the boats had desalinators, which provided drinking water. I can't remember exactly the quantity. I think It was something like 70 percent of what was needed. So having fuel as the primary concern limiting patrol lenght is realistic enough.

When in the central Atlantic, I stop at the Cape Verde Islands for lobsters

joea · 06-02-07, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brag

When in the central Atlantic, I stop at the Cape Verde Islands for lobsters

Hmmmm seriously, I wonder if the u-boats or any other subs took the chance to try some fishing? Maybe not in the busy, that is dangerous areas but the Type IXs way off in the South Atlantic or something? :hmm:

_Seth_ · 06-04-07, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by joea

Hmmmm seriously, I wonder if the u-boats or any other subs took the chance to try some fishing? Maybe not in the busy, that is dangerous areas but the Type IXs way off in the South Atlantic or something? :hmm:

Yepp, they actually did! According to G. Williamson's book "Wolfpack", page 237, the boats would occaisionally seek to supplement the food rations by fishing. On the picture on the page there is actually an officer with an MP40, shooting sharks..!

Avatar · 06-04-07, 11:53 AM

Yikes! 225days at sea. Their beards must have touched their feet!

KeptinCranky · 06-04-07, 05:00 PM

I did 2 patrols in 39, both lasted 25 days, the first i went to the Polish ports first, then to England, the second I went all the way around England first through Der Kanal and then back around Scotland

Heh, type IIs and no targets, That does happen...I once took out my frustration on an armed trawler, it was the only thing to get within firing range the whole patrol, still took 3 eels to sink it

and it was Dutch in 39 so still neutral which din't help all that much

. sometimes that just happens

or sailing all the way to New York and getting sunk by the first American plane you meet

without a sinking to your name

and shooting sharks with an mp40? :hmm:
That's just dumb..I mean, you kill one shark...so now there's a lot of blood in the water and all his buddies are getting up a nice feeding frenzy, and then some poor slob has to go over the side to haul the damn thing in so the cook can make fish stew?

Ok so maybe there is a use for bernard after all :rotfl:

UnterseeBoogeyMan · 06-04-07, 05:35 PM

My 1st patrol spoiled me; 1st radio intercept is a warship convoy and I torpedo an Illustrious Class Carrier. I move on to rack up 120,000 tons. 2nd Patrol, I'm using calm seas to deck gun my way to 25,000 tons. Then the wind hits, the waves, then the rain and fog. I manage to sonar a contact, sink a large merchant. Spend two days getting to my assigned patrol grid. 24 hours-nothing going on and the weather is lousy. I sit there another day. Nothing.

Drive east towards Ireland. get a radio contact, 5 knots convoy going north. The seas are rough and I have to travel almost 300 kms to have a shot at him. I'm on 3/4 fuel. I say noway, I'd run out of gas. I let him, go but I cruise towards the entrance between the Irish Sea and the Atlantic. The weather is lousy. I see some tramp streamers and small freighters. I cant use the deck gun in this weather so I let them go too. I want to save my fish for the bigguns - Large Merchants, medium cargo, whale factory ships. What can I say? I've been spoiled! Besides, I think when the weather calms down I'll go back to Mr. Deck Gun. 10 days pass and I shoot at nothing! Then the clouds go away but it's still blowing about 10 knots at bearing 255 and the seas are swelling. I make contact with a Large Merchant. Got him. One shot below the first mast is always money.

Then the rain and fog comes back! Whats up with that? Next I get a radio intercept of a convoy due west of me heading straight east. I cruise at 2 knots at periscope depth to intercept. As I'm making a visual on the convoy I see a Large Merchant due East of me heading West. I line up for a portside shot, get him.

The fact is, I went 10 days without anything! Now that is a dry spell I've already been killed once, and even in my previous profile/life, I never went through a spell like that! I guess it happens. I wish this lousy weather would go away. I had calm seas all through my 1st patrol and I have never seen lousy weather pop up 2x on one patrol. Wierd.

_Seth_ · 06-02-07, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Brag

From what I have read, outside of quality, food was seldom an issue on long patrols. For water, the boats had desalinators, which provided drinking water. I can't remember exactly the quantity. I think It was something like 70 percent of what was needed. So having fuel as the primary concern limiting patrol lenght is realistic enough.

When in the central Atlantic, I stop at the Cape Verde Islands for lobsters

Thanx for clearing that up, mate! (BTW: Bernard sent an enigma, ordering some pizza.....i dont know if "Adolf's" deliver to the western approaches, and if the pizza would be warm on delivery...

)

ReallyDedPoet · 06-02-07, 08:14 AM

Wonder what was the longest patrol:hmm:

RDP

KeptinCranky · 06-02-07, 09:34 AM

They'll probably have to airdrop your pizza from a Kondor, Seth, so you could be waiting a while there, If it does arrive and it's cold, you can get your money back from Goering

btw that ham in your zentrale is starting to look mighty iffy, better feed that to Bernard first

red_one · 06-02-07, 10:07 AM

BdU sent me from Lorient to Grenada in a VII!

Fools!

Sailor Steve · 06-02-07, 11:18 AM

I once had a patrol with no action, and being a realism fanatic I didn't wander off looking for action. When I finally got home my Type VIIb had been at sea for 85 days. Not as realistic as I thought.

danurve · 06-02-07, 11:24 AM

Pizza & Lobster?!? You guys are livin it up out on the Atlantic.
Can't let my crew find out about this, I could have a mutiny! All they get is Spam, crackers & beer.

red_one try BE instead, Id's bet you can more then make up for the minor renown you don't get for the grid.

bigboywooly · 06-02-07, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

Wonder what was the longest patrol:hmm:

RDP

225 days
U196

http://uboat.net/men/kentrat.htm

GoldenRivet · 06-02-07, 11:53 AM

"Adolf's Pizza" is the pizza chain with the lowest profitability - they deliver exclusively to U-Boats - but rumor has it that bernard's cousin is the district manager and he still insists on the delivery policy....

"30 minutes or less - or its FREE"

06-02-07, 05:07 AM	#1
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Something i have always wondered about....Is there any way to simulate realistic usage of supplies in SHIII? Like food & water, IE... This would add more realism besides fuel & torps.. __________________

06-02-07, 05:35 AM	#2
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	From what I have read, outside of quality, food was seldom an issue on long patrols. For water, the boats had desalinators, which provided drinking water. I can't remember exactly the quantity. I think It was something like 70 percent of what was needed. So having fuel as the primary concern limiting patrol lenght is realistic enough. When in the central Atlantic, I stop at the Cape Verde Islands for lobsters __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

06-02-07, 08:14 AM	#9
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,890 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Wonder what was the longest patrol:hmm: RDP __________________ Back in the Day

06-02-07, 11:18 AM	#12
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I once had a patrol with no action, and being a realism fanatic I didn't wander off looking for action. When I finally got home my Type VIIb had been at sea for 85 days. Not as realistic as I thought. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-02-07, 11:24 AM	#13
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	Pizza & Lobster?!? You guys are livin it up out on the Atlantic. Can't let my crew find out about this, I could have a mutiny! All they get is Spam, crackers & beer. red_one try BE instead, Id's bet you can more then make up for the minor renown you don't get for the grid. __________________

06-04-07, 11:53 AM	#5
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Yikes! 225days at sea. Their beards must have touched their feet!

06-04-07, 05:00 PM	#6
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I did 2 patrols in 39, both lasted 25 days, the first i went to the Polish ports first, then to England, the second I went all the way around England first through Der Kanal and then back around Scotland Heh, type IIs and no targets, That does happen...I once took out my frustration on an armed trawler, it was the only thing to get within firing range the whole patrol, still took 3 eels to sink it and it was Dutch in 39 so still neutral which din't help all that much . sometimes that just happens or sailing all the way to New York and getting sunk by the first American plane you meet without a sinking to your name and shooting sharks with an mp40? :hmm: That's just dumb..I mean, you kill one shark...so now there's a lot of blood in the water and all his buddies are getting up a nice feeding frenzy, and then some poor slob has to go over the side to haul the damn thing in so the cook can make fish stew? Ok so maybe there is a use for bernard after all :rotfl:

06-04-07, 05:35 PM	#7
UnterseeBoogeyMan Ensign Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Land of Cholla Cactus and Red Chile Posts: 224 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	My 1st patrol spoiled me; 1st radio intercept is a warship convoy and I torpedo an Illustrious Class Carrier. I move on to rack up 120,000 tons. 2nd Patrol, I'm using calm seas to deck gun my way to 25,000 tons. Then the wind hits, the waves, then the rain and fog. I manage to sonar a contact, sink a large merchant. Spend two days getting to my assigned patrol grid. 24 hours-nothing going on and the weather is lousy. I sit there another day. Nothing. Drive east towards Ireland. get a radio contact, 5 knots convoy going north. The seas are rough and I have to travel almost 300 kms to have a shot at him. I'm on 3/4 fuel. I say noway, I'd run out of gas. I let him, go but I cruise towards the entrance between the Irish Sea and the Atlantic. The weather is lousy. I see some tramp streamers and small freighters. I cant use the deck gun in this weather so I let them go too. I want to save my fish for the bigguns - Large Merchants, medium cargo, whale factory ships. What can I say? I've been spoiled! Besides, I think when the weather calms down I'll go back to Mr. Deck Gun. 10 days pass and I shoot at nothing! Then the clouds go away but it's still blowing about 10 knots at bearing 255 and the seas are swelling. I make contact with a Large Merchant. Got him. One shot below the first mast is always money. Then the rain and fog comes back! Whats up with that? Next I get a radio intercept of a convoy due west of me heading straight east. I cruise at 2 knots at periscope depth to intercept. As I'm making a visual on the convoy I see a Large Merchant due East of me heading West. I line up for a portside shot, get him. The fact is, I went 10 days without anything! Now that is a dry spell I've already been killed once, and even in my previous profile/life, I never went through a spell like that! I guess it happens. I wish this lousy weather would go away. I had calm seas all through my 1st patrol and I have never seen lousy weather pop up 2x on one patrol. Wierd.

06-02-07, 09:34 AM	#10
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	They'll probably have to airdrop your pizza from a Kondor, Seth, so you could be waiting a while there, If it does arrive and it's cold, you can get your money back from Goering btw that ham in your zentrale is starting to look mighty iffy, better feed that to Bernard first

06-02-07, 10:07 AM	#11
red_one Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 14 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	BdU sent me from Lorient to Grenada in a VII! Fools!

06-02-07, 11:53 AM	#15
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	"Adolf's Pizza" is the pizza chain with the lowest profitability - they deliver exclusively to U-Boats - but rumor has it that bernard's cousin is the district manager and he still insists on the delivery policy.... "30 minutes or less - or its FREE" __________________