What would "history" do?

Umfuld · 05-03-07, 02:50 PM

I've started to think that convoys aren't the way to go when hunting.
If you are patient you can find plenty of solo targets and bring home some impressive tonnage figures.

But mainly for realism I still make convoys a priority.

Heibges · 05-03-07, 03:39 PM

Because of their low design, it was very difficult for the kaleuns to gather Fire Contol Data on escorts. Attacking other surfaced submarines likewise for the same reason.

Close range for a uboat was under 1000m.

The Munster · 05-03-07, 04:23 PM

This is what I do ..
put myself in a position where I'm at PD, 1kt, silent and waiting for the Convoy to approach me.
I let the lead escort run over me and once I've given him enough slack and he hasn't started pinging me, I start my attack on the Convoy.
I do not fire a torpedo at a Merchant until it is less than 650m and do not fire at an Escort unless it is 350m distance away as it is normally travelling at 11 kts.

Brag · 05-03-07, 09:09 PM

The U boat job was and is, in our SH world, to sink merchies; not to alert escorts of our presense before firing torpedoes.

Telgriff · 05-03-07, 09:42 PM

I would definately choose option 2. Systematic sinking of the escorts allows the convoy to get futher away, waste your torps and encourage further re-inforcements to turn up, which is exactly what happened in one convoy ambush I had in GWX off Halifax. DD after DD turned up, I would sink one, then there would be another in its place.

HM.Medico · 05-04-07, 01:06 AM

History = option 1

Me = mix of both. I hit all escorts straight away and flee for a few minutes.

danurve · 05-04-07, 10:07 AM

Im thinking ok large slow convoy - you have 4 maybe 5 fish on a evening attack run.
I might try and slam some of the screening (outside) merchants to open the gap a bit. Depending on the sucess of escape and evasion, then shadow, reload and go for a second attack in the am. Usually some decent large targets in the center. 4 escorts can pin you down if your not carfull, in calm seas even.

johnm · 05-04-07, 10:14 AM

Personally, I usually end up doing option 3.

- sneak in past the leading escort, fire at two or three merchants, Submerge to reload, all torpedos miss and the escorts jump all over me. -

but still trying for option 1

05-03-07, 03:39 PM	#2
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Because of their low design, it was very difficult for the kaleuns to gather Fire Contol Data on escorts. Attacking other surfaced submarines likewise for the same reason. Close range for a uboat was under 1000m. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

05-03-07, 04:23 PM	#3
The Munster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Deepest Dumbria Posts: 1,243 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	This is what I do .. put myself in a position where I'm at PD, 1kt, silent and waiting for the Convoy to approach me. I let the lead escort run over me and once I've given him enough slack and he hasn't started pinging me, I start my attack on the Convoy. I do not fire a torpedo at a Merchant until it is less than 650m and do not fire at an Escort unless it is 350m distance away as it is normally travelling at 11 kts. __________________ *GWX Team Member; Retired* GWX Home Page

05-03-07, 09:09 PM	#4
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The U boat job was and is, in our SH world, to sink merchies; not to alert escorts of our presense before firing torpedoes. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

05-03-07, 09:42 PM	#5
Telgriff 中国水兵 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 272 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I would definately choose option 2. Systematic sinking of the escorts allows the convoy to get futher away, waste your torps and encourage further re-inforcements to turn up, which is exactly what happened in one convoy ambush I had in GWX off Halifax. DD after DD turned up, I would sink one, then there would be another in its place. __________________ Back into the hunt after far too long, GWX 3 Gold, SH3 Commander, DiD Rules, 27% realism and rising Intel Core2Duo 6400 GeForce 8800GTS 4 Gig DDr2

05-04-07, 01:06 AM	#6
HM.Medico Helmsman Join Date: May 2006 Location: 60 Knots off shore, In a VIID Posts: 107 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	History = option 1 Me = mix of both. I hit all escorts straight away and flee for a few minutes. __________________ Creator of The Enigma Room (Assisted greatly by P_Funk) Tonnage Total -: 165 Thousand Tonnes (DDs: 7\|Countless merchants\|Elcos: 4\| Armed Trawlers: 2\| BBs 3) Punctuation is the difference between "I helped my Uncle, Jack, off a horse" and "i helped my uncle jack off a horse" USE GOOD GRAMMAR!

05-03-07, 02:50 PM	#1
Umfuld Captain Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Posts: 503 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I've started to think that convoys aren't the way to go when hunting. If you are patient you can find plenty of solo targets and bring home some impressive tonnage figures. But mainly for realism I still make convoys a priority.

05-04-07, 10:07 AM	#7
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	Im thinking ok large slow convoy - you have 4 maybe 5 fish on a evening attack run. I might try and slam some of the screening (outside) merchants to open the gap a bit. Depending on the sucess of escape and evasion, then shadow, reload and go for a second attack in the am. Usually some decent large targets in the center. 4 escorts can pin you down if your not carfull, in calm seas even. __________________

05-04-07, 10:14 AM	#8
johnm Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North of England Posts: 173 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	Personally, I usually end up doing option 3. - sneak in past the leading escort, fire at two or three merchants, Submerge to reload, all torpedos miss and the escorts jump all over me. - but still trying for option 1