Navigation problems below 100m

meduza · 05-01-07, 09:24 AM

Hi!

I've noticed that my navigator misses the waypoint if I'm submerged below 100m. The U-boat just circles around waypoint and is unable to continue on course to another waypoint.
When I decrease depth to less than 100 m, I can resume on course.

Is this a known problem/bug, or is it just me?

I'm playing vanilla SHIII with the latest patch, sailing on Type VIIC on my 22nd patrol

danlisa · 05-01-07, 09:42 AM

Welcome to Subsim Meduza

Yes, this is a known bug however it more commonly occurs after a reload of a save.

IIRC, to correct it for your current patrol, delete the waypoint that you're having trouble with and then ask your Nav officer to 'follow plotted course'.

Enjoy your stay.

Brag · 05-01-07, 09:47 AM

Welcome aboard this nest of seagoing ruffians :rotfl: :rotfl:

KeptinCranky · 05-01-07, 10:05 AM

@ danlisa, funny, i have this bug too sometimes, never knew what caused it, but IIRC it also occurs at the next waypoint if it is close (like 5km) to the one deleted.

When navigating under water (mostly when evading DDs) i ususally don't use the plotted course anymore, because of this bug and the follow plotted course makes the engines go to full speed, and hence make noise

if stopped by the telegraph instead of being set to a specific speed

meduza · 05-01-07, 10:07 AM

Thanx for the welcome and the answers...

I've just done some testing, it seems that this bug is not only present in the Career after a reload, but also in single mission. I started the Bismark mission, ploted a course and dived. When I reached 100 m, the U-boat started to circle around a waypoint :hmm:

_Seth_ · 05-01-07, 10:10 AM

Hi meduza! I'll join the welcoming crowd at the dock!

Jimbuna · 05-01-07, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptinCranky

@ danlisa, funny, i have this bug too sometimes, never knew what caused it, but IIRC it also occurs at the next waypoint if it is close (like 5km) to the one deleted.

When navigating under water (mostly when evading DDs) i ususally don't use the plotted course anymore, because of this bug and the follow plotted course makes the engines go to full speed, and hence make noise

if stopped by the telegraph instead of being set to a specific speed

Quite correct mate.......if the boat isn't on it's intended course and steering in a straight line prior to reaching the next waypoint, the same problem occurs

Welcome aboard kaleun Meduza

danlisa · 05-01-07, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meduza

I started the Bismark mission, ploted a course and dived. When I reached 100 m, the U-boat started to circle around a waypoint :hmm:

Were you already at 100m or still approaching it when you hit the waypoint. I'm pretty sure, now that my memory has been jogged, that the deciding factor is your distance from the waypoint.:hmm:

meduza · 05-01-07, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa

Were you already at 100m or still approaching it when you hit the waypoint.

I was a little bit below 100m

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa

I'm pretty sure, now that my memory has been jogged, that the deciding factor is your distance from the waypoint.:hmm:

Hm, I've tried numerous waypoint distances, and I don't think it has any influence on it. It happens always when you are below 100m, and never if you are above..

ronbrewer · 05-01-07, 12:07 PM

I remember reading about this issue about a year and half ago. I think the conclusion drawn from a lot of testing was that the game engine has to get to less than 100 meters to a waypoint to consider it has reached it. And since the game places the waypoint on the ocean surface you end up going in circles as the navigator tries his best to get to that waypoint 100 meters above the sub. Kind of reminds me when my dog chases his tail...

Kaleun Cook · 05-01-07, 12:23 PM

Lol, I always thought this was a feature not a bug. :rotfl:Thought the navigator would just have trouble to determine the boats position in deep waters or something.

05-01-07, 09:24 AM	#1
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Navigation problems below 100m Hi! I've noticed that my navigator misses the waypoint if I'm submerged below 100m. The U-boat just circles around waypoint and is unable to continue on course to another waypoint. When I decrease depth to less than 100 m, I can resume on course. Is this a known problem/bug, or is it just me? I'm playing vanilla SHIII with the latest patch, sailing on Type VIIC on my 22nd patrol

05-01-07, 09:42 AM	#2
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Welcome to Subsim Meduza Yes, this is a known bug however it more commonly occurs after a reload of a save. IIRC, to correct it for your current patrol, delete the waypoint that you're having trouble with and then ask your Nav officer to 'follow plotted course'. Enjoy your stay. __________________

05-01-07, 09:47 AM	#3
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard this nest of seagoing ruffians :rotfl: :rotfl: __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

05-01-07, 10:10 AM	#6
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Hi meduza! I'll join the welcoming crowd at the dock! __________________

05-01-07, 10:05 AM	#4
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	@ danlisa, funny, i have this bug too sometimes, never knew what caused it, but IIRC it also occurs at the next waypoint if it is close (like 5km) to the one deleted. When navigating under water (mostly when evading DDs) i ususally don't use the plotted course anymore, because of this bug and the follow plotted course makes the engines go to full speed, and hence make noise if stopped by the telegraph instead of being set to a specific speed

05-01-07, 10:07 AM	#5
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Thanx for the welcome and the answers... I've just done some testing, it seems that this bug is not only present in the Career after a reload, but also in single mission. I started the Bismark mission, ploted a course and dived. When I reached 100 m, the U-boat started to circle around a waypoint :hmm:

05-01-07, 12:07 PM	#10
ronbrewer Mate Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 54 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I remember reading about this issue about a year and half ago. I think the conclusion drawn from a lot of testing was that the game engine has to get to less than 100 meters to a waypoint to consider it has reached it. And since the game places the waypoint on the ocean surface you end up going in circles as the navigator tries his best to get to that waypoint 100 meters above the sub. Kind of reminds me when my dog chases his tail...

05-01-07, 12:23 PM	#11
Kaleun Cook Chief Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ger Posts: 313 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Lol, I always thought this was a feature not a bug. :rotfl:Thought the navigator would just have trouble to determine the boats position in deep waters or something.