Two Male students watch gunman reload?

[U-533]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Bam, there goes your best friend.
Bam, there goes that kid you always teased.
Bam, there goes that girl you had a crush on.
Bam, there goes that kid who thought you were cool.
Bam, there goes your girlfriend.

Would you be in any condition to do anything after that?

Yes Kaptian Phillips

Yes I would do some thing

It has fallen to me several times to do some thing

I chose to stop or at least try to stop

I succeeded

I would not have been able to cope with my own life had I not at least tried...

but maybe these two males will be able to live and sleep better knowing they stood and watched and did not provoke the Asian Mass Murderer...


Hell ...who knows maybe one of them is studying to be a lawyer and he will get thousands of dollars from our government by proving what he did was best for everyone ... after he graduates...

HAA! for that matter these 2 probably will sue the families of the victims because they had to stand there and be traumatized buy watching a murderer reload his gun... because the victims took less bullets to kill than they should have

[ASWnut101]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Also there are reports the shooter had two handguns. While one was a 9mm the other was a .22 automatic. Both hurt.

Also, neither are reknown for thier stopping power. Just a fact.

[gnirtS]

Well they stopped 30+ people permanently.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by U-533

Hell ...who knows maybe one of them is studying to be a lawyer and he will get thousands of dollars from our government by proving what he did was best for everyone ... after he graduates...

HAA! for that matter these 2 probably will sue the families of the victims because they had to stand there and be traumatized buy watching a murderer reload his gun... because the victims took less bullets to kill than they should have

You're a lovely person. Really.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Yahoshua

people still died, and it wasn't as drawn out as something like this. It was over quite quickly.

Right, and did you intervene, or are you an "accomplice"?

[ASWnut101]

Originally Posted by gnirtS

Well they stopped 30+ people permanently.

A headshot will do that to anybody. I can kill someone with a BB Rifle.

[U-533]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I guess it depends on what was meant by reload.

If they meant he removed an empty magazine, stowed his weapon, opened a box of bullets, manually loaded 15 of them in the magazine, retrieved his weapon, inserted the magazine and manually worked the slide then I can understand your point. That takes a lot of time

If, on the other hand he ejected an empty magazine, inserted a loaded magazine and released the slide lock this can be done very quickly.

I have not read any reports on the number of magazines the shooter was carrying.

You did not mention how far these two students were from the gunman

Also there are reports the shooter had two handguns. While one was a 9mm the other was a .22 automatic. Both hurt.

So before I can judge these students, I would need a lot more information on the circumstances. Actually, even after getting a lot more information, I probably would not want to judge them.

I seriously doubt that these two students were standing right by the shooter while he was manually loading a magazine.

I am sure that there are a lot of people on the internet who would instantly disarm the shooter, braving certain death for the betterment of society, but the shooting did not take place on the internet. It was real life. and sadly in this case real death.

There are no saves nor reloads in real life. Nor can we alter the realism

All the murders 9mm clips(which can hold up to 19 rounds) were empty the 22 was empty...

They both told the officer they watched the murderer put bullets into the clip..........

as I said "Maybe 30 seconds"

not on the internet?? True many armchair quarterback would have done it different

but the game has been played and the score is still the same and it was real life

as far as judging some one goes far be it from me

Im just point to the fact 2 males watched and did nothing

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

Also, neither are reknown for thier stopping power. Just a fact.

You are right, but both have great killing power

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by U-533

as far as judging some one goes far be it from me

Originally Posted by U-533

Hell ...who knows maybe one of them is studying to be a lawyer and he will get thousands of dollars from our government by proving what he did was best for everyone ... after he graduates...

HAA! for that matter these 2 probably will sue the families of the victims because they had to stand there and be traumatized buy watching a murderer reload his gun... because the victims took less bullets to kill than they should have

No comment

[U-533]

Originally Posted by Platapus

You are right, but both have great killing power

Honestly I would rather be shot with the 9mm...

The 22 would enter the ribcage and race round and round and round inside then maybe ricochet back and forth a bit... nasty way to die

[U-533]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

No comment

Just stating possible facts in this victimized society

Funny ol world aint it?

[Yahoshua]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Right, and did you intervene, or are you an "accomplice"?

One was a drive-by, the other was a bombing. Not exactly much oppurtunity to react. No I'm not going into the details. I worked hard enough already to bury them.

[ASWnut101]

Originally Posted by Platapus

You are right, but both have great killing power

As do forks, knives, pencils, ect.

What I'm trying to say (and I know I didn't point this out clearly; my apologies) is that if he used something like a .45 ACP or a .44 Magnum, there would have been alot more people dead. Alot more.

With a 9mm, a chest shot is not garunteed. Normally, SWAT, when using the 9mm cartridge, uses the "2-1" rule: Two shots to the chest, and one to the head. A .45 ACP shot to the chest will put you down. Down hard. And a .22? Forget about a chest shot. You'd have to get lucky and hit a vital organ like the heart if you want to stop someone. Supposedly, he used the .22 to shoot only himself, which makes sence. Use the more powerful to kill more, and leave the weak to yourself, as it might not even work.

[CCIP]

Let me say this:

YOU go in that situation and YOU see what you do.

It's a tendency for people to get up on a soap box from the comfort of their home and get judgemental on people in violent situations.

Fear does a lot of things to people, and unreasonable though it may be, I think we can't really understand what may have been going through their heads. I'd love to say I'd be a hero, but until I actually go and do it, it's best not to elevate myself and some great values over the real and the actual.

As someone would say "Let the one here without sin cast the first stone" :hmm:

[August]

Yet we see in the example of United Flight 93 that, given some time to think about it, average people will fight back knowing that they may die in the attempt, especially when they know that death is a foregone conclusion if they don't.