I hate electric torpedoes!!!!!

danurve · 03-28-07, 02:19 PM

I like the T1 steamers. Not to crazy about the electric eels either.
I don't hate them, they have one advantage. But still prefer steamers. What I don't like is when you resupply not in home-port you get them and can't swap them out.

STEED · 03-28-07, 02:23 PM

Get some T4 & 5's shoot them in the general direction and those baby's will sniff out your nearest prey and good night.

Ducimus · 03-28-07, 02:25 PM

There is a *nasty* stock sh3 bug that will cause misses in certain situations if switching between different types of torpedoes with differing speeds. In order to protect against this bug, you MUST click the TORPEDO SPEED switch EVEN IF that selected torpedo only has one speed setting after you select the torpedo. This will update the gyro with the new torpedo speed.

EXAMPLE: If you have Tube #1 selected with a Type I Steam Torpedo set to FAST (i.e. 44 knots), the gyro will set accordingly for the speed of the torpedo to correctly lead the target. If you then switch to Tube #3 containing a Type III Electric Torpedo that only has one speed setting (i.e. SLOW of 30 knots), the gyro WILL NOT BE UPDATED to reflect the slower torpedo speed UNLESS THE TORPEDO SPEED SWITCH is clicked resulting in a probable missed shot.

danurve · 03-28-07, 02:51 PM

Ducimus; I have almost fell out of my chair.
You are serious? It would explain a few patrol f-ups.

AVGWarhawk · 03-28-07, 03:10 PM

Ducimus beat me to the punch. Strange bug it is on the electric torps. After I hit the speed switch...torps ran hot true and to target

Huxy · 03-28-07, 03:40 PM

I fired a torp once (steamer) I didn't hit the ship The Torpedo went in the middle of the propellor and the rudder... How on earth is that possible? >_>

-Huxy

Ducimus · 03-28-07, 04:23 PM

Once you understand that bug, and how to avoid it, the "hate" for electric fish, turns into a "love".

Kpt. Kozloff · 03-28-07, 07:22 PM

I find T1's the most reliable, although i didn't know about the bug!
I'm in the beginning of 1941, so i might give those electrics a go...
Still love the speed options of T1's though.
Thanks for the tip Ducimus.

Well there it is, you learn every day.

Jimbuna · 03-29-07, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

There is a *nasty* stock sh3 bug that will cause misses in certain situations if switching between different types of torpedoes with differing speeds. In order to protect against this bug, you MUST click the TORPEDO SPEED switch EVEN IF that selected torpedo only has one speed setting after you select the torpedo. This will update the gyro with the new torpedo speed.

EXAMPLE: If you have Tube #1 selected with a Type I Steam Torpedo set to FAST (i.e. 44 knots), the gyro will set accordingly for the speed of the torpedo to correctly lead the target. If you then switch to Tube #3 containing a Type III Electric Torpedo that only has one speed setting (i.e. SLOW of 30 knots), the gyro WILL NOT BE UPDATED to reflect the slower torpedo speed UNLESS THE TORPEDO SPEED SWITCH is clicked resulting in a probable missed shot.

HEED Ducimus words' well kaleuns....this info is not flagged up often enough on the site, hence many people never actually realise this 'glitch'

XanderF · 03-29-07, 11:26 AM

I saw references to 'stock Sh3' a couple times in this thread.

Is this not a problem with GWX? Or any other mod that fixes this?

Or something we just always need to consider?

Jimbuna · 03-29-07, 12:10 PM

A stock bug

XanderF · 03-29-07, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

A stock bug

Which means....what. It IS fixed in GWX? It's fixed in some other mod? It cannot be fixed at all? What?

NightCrawler · 03-29-07, 11:40 PM

There is a way to swap the T2 back to T1.

When you are in the office, and check the Uboot(upgrade screen).
You will see under Torpedo's a display how much T2 and T1 you have in your possession...

For those that dont like the T2 here you have to do...
Change all T1 into T2 and then from T2 into T1..
If you change only the T2 that you have it willn't change in GWX.

The other problem when you want to refuel/rearm, you cant select T1 & T2, because the suply-ship will give you what they have....

Thats another reason that i dont refuel/rearm my boot...
Only in case of emergency(when i almost runs out of fuel) i will refuel)...

To bad, that SHIII dont have that option to select what kind of Torps you want...
before you sail off...

Jimbuna · 03-30-07, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderF

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

A stock bug

Which means....what. It IS fixed in GWX? It's fixed in some other mod? It cannot be fixed at all? What?

Which means it's a stock bug it came with the original unmodded version of SH3. It aint fixed in GWX. It aint been fixed in some other mod. Nobody has been able to fix it to date.

maillemaker · 06-14-07, 11:36 AM

So when do you set the speed of the electric torpedo? Can I set it once and forget about it, or do I have to re-set the speed every time I prepare to fire that torpedo?

If I have a full load of electrics do you still get the bug?

I always run with a full load of electrics - got tired of spooking ships with the bubble trails.

Speed isn't a problem for me as I always try to fire from within 800m, preferably 500m.

03-28-07, 02:23 PM	#2
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Get some T4 & 5's shoot them in the general direction and those baby's will sniff out your nearest prey and good night. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

03-28-07, 02:51 PM	#4
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	Ducimus; I have almost fell out of my chair. You are serious? It would explain a few patrol f-ups. __________________

03-28-07, 03:10 PM	#5
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,298 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Ducimus beat me to the punch. Strange bug it is on the electric torps. After I hit the speed switch...torps ran hot true and to target __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-28-07, 03:40 PM	#6
Huxy Seaman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 34 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I fired a torp once (steamer) I didn't hit the ship The Torpedo went in the middle of the propellor and the rudder... How on earth is that possible? >_> -Huxy __________________ 'I lost my mind, And I don't miss it'

03-28-07, 07:22 PM	#8
Kpt. Kozloff Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jersey - Channel Islands, UK Posts: 305 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	I find T1's the most reliable, although i didn't know about the bug! I'm in the beginning of 1941, so i might give those electrics a go... Still love the speed options of T1's though. Thanks for the tip Ducimus. Well there it is, you learn every day. __________________ GWX1.03/Cmdr2.7/plus all sorts of tweaks

03-28-07, 02:19 PM	#1
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	I like the T1 steamers. Not to crazy about the electric eels either. I don't hate them, they have one advantage. But still prefer steamers. What I don't like is when you resupply not in home-port you get them and can't swap them out. __________________

03-28-07, 02:25 PM	#3
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	There is a nasty stock sh3 bug that will cause misses in certain situations if switching between different types of torpedoes with differing speeds. In order to protect against this bug, you MUST click the TORPEDO SPEED switch EVEN IF that selected torpedo only has one speed setting after you select the torpedo. This will update the gyro with the new torpedo speed. EXAMPLE: If you have Tube #1 selected with a Type I Steam Torpedo set to FAST (i.e. 44 knots), the gyro will set accordingly for the speed of the torpedo to correctly lead the target. If you then switch to Tube #3 containing a Type III Electric Torpedo that only has one speed setting (i.e. SLOW of 30 knots), the gyro WILL NOT BE UPDATED to reflect the slower torpedo speed UNLESS THE TORPEDO SPEED SWITCH is clicked resulting in a probable missed shot.

03-28-07, 04:23 PM	#7
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Once you understand that bug, and how to avoid it, the "hate" for electric fish, turns into a "love".

03-29-07, 11:26 AM	#10
XanderF Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 554 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I saw references to 'stock Sh3' a couple times in this thread. Is this not a problem with GWX? Or any other mod that fixes this? Or something we just always need to consider? __________________

03-29-07, 12:10 PM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,168 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	A stock bug __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-29-07, 11:40 PM	#13
NightCrawler Engineer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: FLA USA Posts: 217 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	There is a way to swap....... There is a way to swap the T2 back to T1. When you are in the office, and check the Uboot(upgrade screen). You will see under Torpedo's a display how much T2 and T1 you have in your possession... For those that dont like the T2 here you have to do... Change all T1 into T2 and then from T2 into T1.. If you change only the T2 that you have it willn't change in GWX. The other problem when you want to refuel/rearm, you cant select T1 & T2, because the suply-ship will give you what they have.... Thats another reason that i dont refuel/rearm my boot... Only in case of emergency(when i almost runs out of fuel) i will refuel)... To bad, that SHIII dont have that option to select what kind of Torps you want... before you sail off...

06-14-07, 11:36 AM	#15
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	So when do you set the speed of the electric torpedo? Can I set it once and forget about it, or do I have to re-set the speed every time I prepare to fire that torpedo? If I have a full load of electrics do you still get the bug? I always run with a full load of electrics - got tired of spooking ships with the bubble trails. Speed isn't a problem for me as I always try to fire from within 800m, preferably 500m.