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Old 03-25-07, 10:27 AM   #46
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even if illegal immigrants are as well off as you say, and even if all 11 million of them drive, that is just a perverbial drop in the ocean compared to the rest of the US population. So I personally don't see that as making a rather big difference. But that is just my view of it as a 3rd party. It will help slightly certainly, but solve the problem it will not.
I've linked to this several times in the past.

Have you watched Immigration Gumballs?
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Old 03-25-07, 11:29 AM   #47
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even if illegal immigrants are as well off as you say, and even if all 11 million of them drive, that is just a proverbial drop in the ocean compared to the rest of the US population. So I personally don't see that as making a rather big difference. But that is just my view of it as a 3rd party. It will help slightly certainly, but solve the problem it will not.
I've linked to this several times in the past.

Have you watched Immigration Gumballs?
Surely your not anti-immigration Avon?

After all, you are part of one of the most dramatic immigrant groups of the last generation.
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Old 03-25-07, 11:43 AM   #48
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even if illegal immigrants are as well off as you say, and even if all 11 million of them drive, that is just a proverbial drop in the ocean compared to the rest of the US population. So I personally don't see that as making a rather big difference. But that is just my view of it as a 3rd party. It will help slightly certainly, but solve the problem it will not.
I've linked to this several times in the past.

Have you watched Immigration Gumballs?
Surely your not anti-immigration Avon?

After all, you are part of one of the most dramatic immigrant groups of the last generation.
I am anti-open-border immigration. I'm all for controlled immigration.

Try again.
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Old 03-25-07, 12:32 PM   #49
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I am anti-open-border immigration. I'm all for controlled immigration.

Try again.
So you do not condone the vast amounts of illegal Jewish immigration in in the 1940s and 50s? :hmm:

What do you mean by "Try again" ? What is it that you think I am trying to do?
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Old 03-25-07, 12:43 PM   #50
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I am anti-open-border immigration. I'm all for controlled immigration.

Try again.
So you do not condone the vast amounts of illegal Jewish immigration in in the 1940s and 50s? :hmm:
50's?

I do not condone the British White Paper, which disregarded the League of Nations Mandate. I mean, if you want to talk about illegal.................

And never mind those Jews that were fleeing Europe in the late 30's and early 40's because of what Hitler wanted to do to them, who had nowehere else to run to because most of the world closed its doors on them.
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What do you mean by "Try again" ? What is it that you think I am trying to do?
Bring out the hypocrisy in me.

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Old 03-25-07, 02:49 PM   #51
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Well, that's fairly despicable.....

I suppose it is better than Hitler who fixed illegal immigration into Germany....but used more gas to do so.
Humor doesn't get much more dark or cynical then that folks!



It's one idea, with the illegal aliens. Rather than shipping them off to Iraq to die for Republican corporatism and oil companies, I'd rather put them to work for the ACE (Army Corps of Engineers). There are so many projects that need work if our bloody Congress would just fund them (instead of shipping $10 billion off to their own state pork projects).

California needs a string of nuclear desalination plants so they'd stop sucking water from the Colorado. All the Bible Belt states need levees and wetlands worked on along the Mississippi. We need to expand our railways instead of using semi-trucks. There is plenty of cleanup to do in Florida and Mississippi, as well as Louisiana, from the past 4 hurricanes that have come through there. The Mississippi delta needs dredging and water-breaks installed at various points. Plenty of areas with ground-water arsenic deposits and other contaminants that need to be evaulated and a solution (to clean drinking water) found.

Roosevelt called it the "CCC". We need another CCC, and I'd like to make it a part of border security. Secure the borders, give the illegals 6 months to register (fingerprints, photos, retinal and iris scans, DNA samples, matching against criminal database), and have them work for the CCC and spanish language classes as visiting native speakers (especially in our high-schools, but colleges, too).
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