The constructive criticism thread - Page 2

malkuth74 · 03-19-07, 07:54 PM

I like ships that go boom.

tommyk · 03-19-07, 07:56 PM

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Yes, I can see your point. Generally speaking, I like the higher resolution in simulations because I can easier identify far away objects at better detail. I am lucky owner of a Dell2407 and I very much enjoy it! I would be very happy to see SH4 in true 1920x1200 on my 24 Inches screen. That would be just great!

If I run IL2 in high resolution it give me a headache attempting read dials and see far off dots. Perhaps the widescreen is stretching the game to fit. I really do not know:hmm:

Hmm, I dont have IL2 but I own Falcon4AF and I think in F4 1600x1200 is much more superiour than 1024x768. In F4AF you do not have problem reading the dials. There are different sets of 2D artwork depending on resolution. Its easy to see the mig in 1600x1200 but with 1024x768 you are having much harder time...

Anyway, F4 is quite old and this is about the modern build simulation SH4. I think we will see what it brings us very soon! I hope for the best!

AVGWarhawk · 03-19-07, 07:56 PM

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I'm kind of in your corner there Stabiz. The screenshots always looked muddled to me and not quite as crisp as SH3. I think widescreen is the issue here on this. Just my thoughts. Then again all screens might have issues. Something just never seemed right with the screenshots.

I do not have the game either.

I so hope we are wrong, but I`m getting depressed. (Must learn not to join hype!

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I hope we are wrong and some option switch was not hit or checked for widescreens or any screens for that matter. I plan on getting the game and see what I see. Besides, let the modder have at it. The original SH3 hit my shelf in about a month. I have not stopped playing it since GWX fiddle with it.

AVGWarhawk · 03-19-07, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

There is already a thread on this issue, which is more aptly named i might add.

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In my view Waste Gate is looking to find a possible answer

Lets cut the crap. He's dissappointed and pissed off because the game didnt meet his expectations out of the box. So now he's raising a big F'ing stink about it because he's angry. Come on, The "do not buy SH4 Thread UbiSoft Sucks!!" ?!

I've seen that crap alot in other games, what it really means is, "im pissed off, im personally insulted, and im going to try and make ubi loose money. That'll show em! Disappoint me will they!"

Maybe so but perhaps that is out of his system and we are ready to get down to business on a resolve. The original thread has one individual with pictures of the issue. I believe we need some more and suspect we will see them in the coming days. I'm disappointed for those really looking forward to high resolution and it was not delivered as promised. I'm hoping the original poster with pics did not hit a option button or check a box in option to resolve the bad pictures.

Anyway, you got me sailing aroung Africa and I need to finish that patrol!

stabiz · 03-19-07, 08:03 PM

Yes, but GWX came 2 years after release.:rotfl:

I am buying this game too, but not in the current(?) state. I dont want to ruin the experience by being forced to overlook alot of stuff.

I am sure it will be mega-awesome after some modding, though.

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Q: VikingGrandad: Are any of the existing SH4 preview screenshots and movies taken directly from the actual game, or are they enhanced/CGI?
A: SH4 uses post processing for a cinematic feeling, and that uninformed viewer may think at first those screenshots are edited. The game looks indeed as good, though of course all screenshots and footage released are work in progress.

AVGWarhawk · 03-19-07, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

Yes, but GWX came 2 years after release.:rotfl:

I am buying this game too, but not in the current(?) state. I dont want to ruin the experience by being forced to overlook alot of stuff.

I am sure it will be mega-awesome after some modding, though.

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Q: VikingGrandad: Are any of the existing SH4 preview screenshots and movies taken directly from the actual game, or are they enhanced/CGI?
A: SH4 uses post processing for a cinematic feeling, and that uninformed viewer may think at first those screenshots are edited. The game looks indeed as good, though of course all screenshots and footage released are work in progress.

Yes, two years but the GWX guys are on the ball. I think the modding will start immediately. We and they have seen what they can do. They now understand the make up of the config files and such. A lot testing and changing has already been completed in SH3 that will spill over to SH4. IMHO.

nhall70 · 03-19-07, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

There is already a thread on this issue, which is more aptly named i might add.

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In my view Waste Gate is looking to find a possible answer

Lets cut the crap. He's dissappointed and pissed off because the game didnt meet his expectations out of the box. So now he's raising a big F'ing stink about it because he's angry. Come on, The "do not buy SH4 Thread UbiSoft Sucks!!" ?!

I've seen that crap alot in other games, what it really means is, "im pissed off, im personally insulted, and im going to try and make ubi loose money. That'll show em! Disappoint me will they!"

Interesting. I usually feel like you do about these sorts of things, but in this case...I'm afraid it's different.

This is by far the biggest lie I've ever seen a publisher make...EVER. I still can't believe it's true.

This is going to affect reviews, it's going to affect purchases, it's going to affect sales, etc. Ubisoft is going to be the laughing stock of the sim community. The reason you should care about this is that it could mean the end of the Silent Hunter series. So enjoy SH4...might be your last one.

Ducimus · 03-19-07, 08:10 PM

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I so hope we are wrong, but I`m getting depressed. (Must learn not to join hype!

Thats easy. Just realize that their's always pre release hype, and then there's hype WHEN (not if, but when) the game doesnt live up to the pre release hype. Also realize that when people are upset, they tend to exaggerate, embellish, and otherwise focus on that which has offended them; often overlooking much of everything else. This applies to just about every game out there.

OneTinSoldier · 03-19-07, 08:12 PM

I just want to say that for me, this isn't just about 'Widescreen' monitors, it's about higher resolutions period. I have a big LCD monitor, a Samsung 214t 22 incher and it's a 4:3 ratio monitor, not a 16:9 ratio Widescreen one. It's native resolution is 1600x1200.

Or perhaps I'm the only one here with a fairly large 4:3 ratio LCD!

If I'm not, I don't want us guys to be forgotten!

geetrue · 03-19-07, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate

To be fair this thread should be established. If you have anything to contribute this will be the place to place it. 'Code' may be usefull for the folks at UbiSoft.

To be fair you should purchase the game and then complain, wastegate ...

your just stirring things up for personal reasons that you evidently have left undisclosed ...

I've been a sub sim member since 1999 and never have I seen anyone start a thread like the one you just started about how everyone shouldn't purchase the game.

What's in it for you to make everyone angry ... you don't even come over here. You should go sit it out and think about it.

Watch out which side your own everyone ... his vanity is showing
(notice no smiley's)

AVGWarhawk · 03-19-07, 08:12 PM

Well, that is the thing. We have one person with pics showing bad jaggie lines. We needs some more pics or just test the game ourselves. I do not have mine has yet but I'm getting it regardless of this issue. I hopeful some others will post a pic in high res that looks great.

clayton · 03-19-07, 08:19 PM

Sure, let the modders fix it! No need to give them a product that they can have fun and enjoy playing. Time to get to work...

To all those hardworking modders out there; Thank you for all you do. UBI should be paying you!

The Dev's should have hired the GWX guys!!! They'll be doing the work anyway!

Shame on the guys who knew about these bugs earlier...

nhall70 · 03-19-07, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate

To be fair this thread should be established. If you have anything to contribute this will be the place to place it. 'Code' may be usefull for the folks at UbiSoft.

To be fair you should purchase the game and then complain, wastegate ...

your just stirring things up for personal reasons that you evidently have left undisclosed ...

I've been a sub sim member since 1999 and never have I seen anyone start a thread like the one you just started about how everyone shouldn't purchase the game.

What's in it for you to make everyone angry ... you don't even come over here. You should go sit it out and think about it.

Watch out which side your own everyone ... his vanity is showing
(notice no smiley's)

I don't think it's reasonable to suggest that someone should purchase the game before drawing any conclusions. Buyer beware is the golden rule. Many people frequent these forums to get feedback before making a purchasing decision in the first place.

I think people should be well informed of the resolution problem because it appears that Ubisoft has quite deliberately mislead the community about this. This is so different than anything else I've ever seen before, it defies comprehension!

Arrowhead2k1 · 03-19-07, 08:26 PM

Well I hope Ubi is hearing us and assembling some serious damage control teams, because this needs to be fixed!

Antrodemus · 03-19-07, 08:27 PM

Why is there such a dearth of screenshots from those who have the game?!? The whole community is going bananas trying to find out if their worst fears are true, and yet those who can prove or allay those fears seem strangely reluctant to help...

COME ON OWNERS OF SHIV!!! How hard can it be to start slappin' up some screens?!?

03-19-07, 07:54 PM	#16
malkuth74 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 377 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I like ships that go boom. __________________

03-19-07, 08:12 PM	#24
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	I just want to say that for me, this isn't just about 'Widescreen' monitors, it's about higher resolutions period. I have a big LCD monitor, a Samsung 214t 22 incher and it's a 4:3 ratio monitor, not a 16:9 ratio Widescreen one. It's native resolution is 1600x1200. Or perhaps I'm the only one here with a fairly large 4:3 ratio LCD! If I'm not, I don't want us guys to be forgotten! __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

03-19-07, 08:12 PM	#26
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,293 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Well, that is the thing. We have one person with pics showing bad jaggie lines. We needs some more pics or just test the game ourselves. I do not have mine has yet but I'm getting it regardless of this issue. I hopeful some others will post a pic in high res that looks great. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-19-07, 08:19 PM	#27
clayton Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: At your mom's house... Posts: 571 Downloads: 218 Uploads: 0	Sure, let the modders fix it! No need to give them a product that they can have fun and enjoy playing. Time to get to work... To all those hardworking modders out there; Thank you for all you do. UBI should be paying you! The Dev's should have hired the GWX guys!!! They'll be doing the work anyway! Shame on the guys who knew about these bugs earlier...

03-19-07, 08:26 PM	#29
Arrowhead2k1 Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 112 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Well I hope Ubi is hearing us and assembling some serious damage control teams, because this needs to be fixed!

03-19-07, 08:27 PM	#30
Antrodemus Torpedoman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 117 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Why is there such a dearth of screenshots from those who have the game?!? The whole community is going bananas trying to find out if their worst fears are true, and yet those who can prove or allay those fears seem strangely reluctant to help... COME ON OWNERS OF SHIV!!! How hard can it be to start slappin' up some screens?!?