Fishies

[Morts]

Originally Posted by Hitman

Sadly also historically correct

wow

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Spray

I hope your being sarchastic thats why its a sub simulator not an aquatic wildlife simulator.

Someone here is slow on the uptake.

[LIGHTNING]

Originally Posted by Hitman

Sadly also historically correct

Anybody remember the great speech in Jaws when Quint talks about him and his crew that ended up in the water. Only half then survived the other half eaten by sharks.I cant remember the name of the ship though it was the one that delivered the atomic bomb. Might have been the USS Indianapolis.

[THE_MASK]

who cares about fish except for the ones you catch .

[Mylander]

Originally Posted by LIGHTNING

Anybody remember the great speech in Jaws when Quint talks about him and his crew that ended up in the water. Only half then survived the other half eaten by sharks.I cant remember the name of the ship though it was the one that delivered the atomic bomb. Might have been the USS Indianapolis.

You are referring to CA 35 USS Indianapolis. I can highly reccomend the Book In Harm's Way: The sinking of the USS Indianapolis by Doug Stanton. It is a gut-wrenching factual account of the ordeal of the crew of the "Indie". It was researched by interviewing the survivors, and is a gripping read. It follows the saga until the early 60's when Captain McVay commits suicide. He was scapegoated by the Navy brass for the loss of the ship and all of the carnage that followed. They even brought the captain of the I-boat that sunk her all the way from Japan to testify at McVay's court-martial. It is trhe only time in history that a US ship captain has been court-martialled for losing his vessel in combat to enemy action.

Fact is the Navy LOST the Indianapolis for almost a week after she delivered the A-Bomb to Tinian. They forgot about her and her crew. When she didn't show up for a gunnery exercise, oops! nobody noticed. So they floated under the blistering Pacific sun for several days watching their buddies being eaten by sharks, and succumbing to exposure one by one. My numbers are probably off here, but of a crew of 1200, 900 survived the torpedoing and went into the water, and I think only some 300 survived the next several days at sea. It was only by pure luck that they were spotted by an aircraft. The Navy wasn't even looking for them.

This is really atypical of the US armed forces, who usually bend over backwards to rescue servicemembers in harm's way, Indie's crew just was lost in the paperwork shuffle. It was tragic. Even more tragic was how they scapegoated the Captain. The surviving crew stood behind him to a man, but the brass responsible for "losing" a heavy cruiser needed their scapegoat, and they hung him out to dry.

I hope I haven't given too much away already, but this is an excellent book. Anyone interested in the Pacific war would do well to add this one to your library.

Mylander

[fullmetaledges]

Originally Posted by Hitman

SH3 had dolphins hidding in the code , and some talented modders managed to deliver them. For SH4 in the Pacific the appropiate would probably be SHARKS I'd really love to see a "big white" lurking around my boat with its finn out of the water instead of those boring dolphins (I will already have two golden dolphins in my brest by then ). How I envy the australians, who can see those fabulous animals at sea...

Speaking of fish and dolphins too bad the navy didn't go with the original concept of there submarine badge, it's way cooler than the dolphins I think

[Safe-Keeper]

Science Illustrated's history section ran an article on the USS Indianapolis. Horrible story.

Fact is the Navy LOST the Indianapolis for almost a week after she delivered the A-Bomb to Tinian. They forgot about her and her crew. When she didn't show up for a gunnery exercise, oops! nobody noticed. So they floated under the blistering Pacific sun for several days watching their buddies being eaten by sharks, and succumbing to exposure one by one. My numbers are probably off here, but of a crew of 1200, 900 survived the torpedoing and went into the water, and I think only some 300 survived the next several days at sea. It was only by pure luck that they were spotted by an aircraft. The Navy wasn't even looking for them.

Yup. Their mayday was picked up by three people, none of which responded. One operator launched a Search-And-Rescue operation, only to have it cancelled by his superior because there was no second mayday from the ship.

This is really atypical of the US armed forces, who usually bend over backwards to rescue servicemembers in harm's way, Indie's crew just was lost in the paperwork shuffle. It was tragic. Even more tragic was how they scapegoated the Captain. The surviving crew stood behind him to a man, but the brass responsible for "losing" a heavy cruiser needed their scapegoat, and they hung him out to dry.

Funny thing is how they brought in the CO of the Japanese submarine that sunk the ship to testify. They clearly expected him to say that since Indianapolis was running straight rather than zig-zagging, he had an easy shot, but he surprised them by stating that he'd have hit anyway (the article didn't say why, but it was probably due to the short range). Not that it made a difference, as the court's mind was made up from the start.

[Mylander]

Yep - the night was ink-black by all acounts, and a blacked out ship. Couldn't see your hand in front of your face. The I boat was just very lucky, and in the right place at the right time to have the shot.

Mylander

[Boris]

Seeing as SH3 had dolphins, I don't see why SH4 doesn't. It wouldn't have been hard to do, and I'm sure the devs could have made a pod swim along playfully with the sub for a while. Would have been a nice sight to see from the conning tower.