Shallow waters convoy ambush

prologos · 02-17-07, 11:53 AM

Hello all! I just encountered my first convoy in the career I am playing. I found it just off the port of Hartpool, a large convoy with at least 4 ascorts (maybe more) and perhaps a dozen merchants. Since I have read many threads about convoy attacks I knew that it could be suicide to attack them in shallow waters (about 40 - 60m), but since it was my first I thought I should save and give it a go. I went to silent running, plot a nice perpendicular course (i play at 100% realism GWX) and as soon as I got at about 2km from 2 large merchants roughly in the front of the convoy I fired two torpedoes at each, made an 180 turn and opened my ears to hear the explosions. Surprisingly every torpedo I fired hitted home. Allthough I remained at periscope depth none of the escorts seemed to coming into my direction (I think they didn't even started to looking for me except for the search lights). I brought my periscope slowly above the water and saw a large cargo directly behind me so I fired my stern tube at it and i scored another hit. The funny thing is that none of the ships left in the convoy after my first attack started evasive manouvers.

Is that normal? Does the actual state of the war plays a role in the escorts efficiency? (I am in January '40).
In GWX are there only the historical convoys mentioned in the manual or the game creates also random convoys (as I imagine is the one I encountered)?

Anyway this game (especially with GWX) is completely awesome. I am a sub simulation veteran you could say (the first i played was silent service II) but I am completely stunned by this game and GWX. And when I saw the most famous ship of my country (Pisa Class "Georgios Averof") was included in GWX I was even more stunned than before.

Greetings everybody from Greece

p.s. sorry about my spelling and grammar

Brag · 02-17-07, 12:25 PM

Yasu, Kaleun!
Some convoys are easy. But don't count on that. Congratulations on a splendid attack! Good hunting in the future.

bigboywooly · 02-17-07, 12:31 PM

Hi
Yes there are random convoys too
Yel also the date of the war does play in the escorts ability
As the war progresses they get a lot tougher

" The British have stopped making mistakes " :rotfl:

The Averoff was built by our Greek team member
Labour of love

Glad you are enjoying yourself

Jimbuna · 02-17-07, 02:08 PM

Welcome aboard kaleun prologus

She is a bit of a beauty like

prologos · 02-17-07, 02:19 PM

The word enjoy is probably inadequate to describe my feelings when the torps wrecked those large merchants... And since today is Saturday, my fav team has just beaten their bitter rivals in the Greek League and I have rent "Das Boot" Director's cut for the weekend it seems that I'm gonna have a splendid weekend

I am anxiously awaiting to progress the game to 1941 so I can move to the flotilla based in Greece. You see, we greeks don't often have the oportunity to see our country as part of a game and that's a two thumbs up for me for GWX!

I have visited the Averof once when I was in school. Awesome experience! I don't remember much since It was a long time ago but I remember I was deeply impressed by her.
When I was even younger my sister took me on a field trip with the girl scouts to Poros where we visited a warship. I can't be sure if that ship was also the Averof but that's the impression I have. Maybe someone knows if the Averof was stationed at Poros before she was made a museum at Faliro. Here is the only photo I have from that ship. Don't say that I was not a nice boy with that helmet on

))

Anyway , nice to have found you guys ...

)

_Seth_ · 02-17-07, 02:21 PM

Welcome, herr kaleun! Your spelling and grammar are excellent, dont worry!!!

Ducimus · 02-17-07, 02:25 PM

In 1940, you can get away with bloody murder! That same attack in say, 42 or onward.. the outcome would probably have been much different.

Corsair · 02-17-07, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prologos

The word enjoy is probably inadequate to describe my feelings when the torps wrecked those large merchants... And since today is Saturday, my fav team has just beaten their bitter rivals in the Greek League and I have rent "Das Boot" Director's cut for the weekend it seems that I'm gonna have a splendid weekend

I am anxiously awaiting to progress the game to 1941 so I can move to the flotilla based in Greece. You see, we greeks don't often have the oportunity to see our country as part of a game and that's a two thumbs up for me for GWX!

Anyway , nice to have found you guys ...

)

I am in the moment in GWX on my 5th patrol out of Salamis and I enjoy very much the nice colours from the Med. (and also it's a lot warmer than the North Atlantic

) I have sailed in these waters irl for a few years and the sunrises look very close to reality. Sometimes I stay at TCx1 for 15/20 mns just enjoying it while I have a coffee/cigarette break after some night action... very relaxing.

melnibonian · 02-17-07, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prologos

And when I saw the most famous ship of my country (Pisa Class "Georgios Averof") was included in GWX I was even more stunned than before.

Greetings everybody from Greece

p.s. sorry about my spelling and grammar

As a fellow Greek (living and working in England but that's a totally different story) I say to you welcome to SubSim

RHN Georgios Averof was built by VonHelsing another fellow Greek and member of the GWX Development Team. It's a real beauty and Von did one hell of a job. Thanks to him and the rest of the GWX Team Greece is properly represented in the game as you can actually find Greek ships in almost every theater of operations. Actually if you use SH3Cmd and you select the option for the use of real ship names you will see a lot of merchant ships with greek names (actual ones that got sunk during WWII). On a small chat I had with Von some time ago he said he plans to build the Aetos Class Destroyers as well for GWX fo I have my fingers crossed, as if these ships are built then there will be the whole Royal Hellenic Navy of the time in the game.

Dante80 · 02-17-07, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melnibonian

RHN Georgios Averof was built by VonHelsing another fellow Greek and member of the GWX Development Team. It's a real beauty and Von did one hell of a job. Thanks to him and the rest of the GWX Team Greece is properly represented in the game as you can actually find Greek ships in almost every theater of operations.

That is soo true. Thanks GWX Team and thank you VonHelsing....

Salutations from Sunny Athens, George F.

bigboywooly · 02-18-07, 12:38 AM

Hi and welcome to subsim Dante
Enjoy your stay

Tiny · 02-18-07, 05:37 AM

The convoys I have encountered (it's now 41) have mostly only had light escort such as a couple of flower corvettes. Once I encountered a convoy with two "real" Destroyers. The DC'ed me quite some time but I (as usual:p ) escaped without a scratch. On my way home now, have sunk 40000 tons

, 90% realism.

melnibonian · 02-18-07, 06:33 AM

Welcome to SubSim Dante

Stick around and you're going to love this place. It's by far the nicest forum in the cyberspace

Dante80 · 02-18-07, 06:54 AM

Hehe thanks for the welcome...see you in the threads...

Jimbuna · 02-18-07, 07:06 AM

Welcome aboard kaleun Dante

02-17-07, 11:53 AM	#1
prologos Mate Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 56 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Shallow waters convoy ambush Hello all! I just encountered my first convoy in the career I am playing. I found it just off the port of Hartpool, a large convoy with at least 4 ascorts (maybe more) and perhaps a dozen merchants. Since I have read many threads about convoy attacks I knew that it could be suicide to attack them in shallow waters (about 40 - 60m), but since it was my first I thought I should save and give it a go. I went to silent running, plot a nice perpendicular course (i play at 100% realism GWX) and as soon as I got at about 2km from 2 large merchants roughly in the front of the convoy I fired two torpedoes at each, made an 180 turn and opened my ears to hear the explosions. Surprisingly every torpedo I fired hitted home. Allthough I remained at periscope depth none of the escorts seemed to coming into my direction (I think they didn't even started to looking for me except for the search lights). I brought my periscope slowly above the water and saw a large cargo directly behind me so I fired my stern tube at it and i scored another hit. The funny thing is that none of the ships left in the convoy after my first attack started evasive manouvers. Is that normal? Does the actual state of the war plays a role in the escorts efficiency? (I am in January '40). In GWX are there only the historical convoys mentioned in the manual or the game creates also random convoys (as I imagine is the one I encountered)? Anyway this game (especially with GWX) is completely awesome. I am a sub simulation veteran you could say (the first i played was silent service II) but I am completely stunned by this game and GWX. And when I saw the most famous ship of my country (Pisa Class "Georgios Averof") was included in GWX I was even more stunned than before. Greetings everybody from Greece p.s. sorry about my spelling and grammar

02-17-07, 12:25 PM	#2
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yasu, Kaleun! Some convoys are easy. But don't count on that. Congratulations on a splendid attack! Good hunting in the future. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-17-07, 12:31 PM	#3
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Hi Yes there are random convoys too Yel also the date of the war does play in the escorts ability As the war progresses they get a lot tougher " The British have stopped making mistakes " :rotfl: The Averoff was built by our Greek team member Labour of love Glad you are enjoying yourself __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

02-17-07, 02:08 PM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Welcome aboard kaleun prologus She is a bit of a beauty like __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-17-07, 02:19 PM	#5
prologos Mate Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 56 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	The word enjoy is probably inadequate to describe my feelings when the torps wrecked those large merchants... And since today is Saturday, my fav team has just beaten their bitter rivals in the Greek League and I have rent "Das Boot" Director's cut for the weekend it seems that I'm gonna have a splendid weekend I am anxiously awaiting to progress the game to 1941 so I can move to the flotilla based in Greece. You see, we greeks don't often have the oportunity to see our country as part of a game and that's a two thumbs up for me for GWX! I have visited the Averof once when I was in school. Awesome experience! I don't remember much since It was a long time ago but I remember I was deeply impressed by her. When I was even younger my sister took me on a field trip with the girl scouts to Poros where we visited a warship. I can't be sure if that ship was also the Averof but that's the impression I have. Maybe someone knows if the Averof was stationed at Poros before she was made a museum at Faliro. Here is the only photo I have from that ship. Don't say that I was not a nice boy with that helmet on )) Anyway , nice to have found you guys ... ) Last edited by prologos; 02-17-07 at 02:32 PM.

02-17-07, 02:21 PM	#6
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Welcome, herr kaleun! Your spelling and grammar are excellent, dont worry!!! __________________

02-17-07, 02:25 PM	#7
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	In 1940, you can get away with bloody murder! That same attack in say, 42 or onward.. the outcome would probably have been much different.

02-18-07, 12:38 AM	#11
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Hi and welcome to subsim Dante Enjoy your stay __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

02-18-07, 05:37 AM	#12
Tiny Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Submerged Posts: 105 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	The convoys I have encountered (it's now 41) have mostly only had light escort such as a couple of flower corvettes. Once I encountered a convoy with two "real" Destroyers. The DC'ed me quite some time but I (as usual:p ) escaped without a scratch. On my way home now, have sunk 40000 tons , 90% realism.

02-18-07, 06:33 AM	#13
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Welcome to SubSim Dante Stick around and you're going to love this place. It's by far the nicest forum in the cyberspace __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

02-18-07, 06:54 AM	#14
Dante80 Sailor man Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Athens :: Greece Posts: 45 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Hehe thanks for the welcome...see you in the threads...

02-18-07, 07:06 AM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Welcome aboard kaleun Dante __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!