Whats your best evasion move?

USS Sea Tiger · 02-11-07, 03:30 PM

hehhhe, well, what I really do,

try to turn 90 degrees from the dds path at slow, then when he is nearly on me, full speed, decoy launch, turn hard right/left (to where the dd came from ) 90 another decoy in the knuckle, then silent run at 25 to 50 mt until well clear!

a little prayer to the god of electrons too would not hurt

gabeeg · 02-11-07, 04:59 PM

My tactics change abit with the year in which I am fighting...my favorite and probably most successful is to get ahead of the convoy and position myself submerged at periscope depth (peri down) between the first and second rows of the oncoming convoy. When they are just about on my I raise my scope and launch all forward tubes setting the torpedos for slow for close targets and medium or fast for further targets...then I launch the bow tubes set to fast. I then go all ahead slow, lower the scope and dive to 100+meters while steering into and ahead of the convoy, go silent and let the convoy slowly pass over me as I head the same direction. About the time the last ship has passed I am usually deep and then I use my hydrophone to locate the escorts and plot the most logical escape. Then considering location and remaining torpedos I will consider racing ahead and doing it all over again.

Mush Martin · 02-11-07, 05:04 PM

my 2nd favorite move is to run the attack attack
in reverse and draw the escort group on a turn
away angle retreating from their axis of advance
then when I get to the sonar window moment

I again flank ahead and reverse turn with a depth
change downwards and run at high speed along
or more correctly outside of and parralell to
their axis of advance

putting them behind me in a hurry
with a very hard shake on multiple
bogey's

tycho102 · 02-11-07, 05:14 PM

Yeah, the best evasion maneuver is to not get detected in the first place.

After that, I just dive deep and go from there. If the enemy is right on top of me and obviously has a really good fix, I will nail the engines and make a turn at the last second. Always heading away from other escorts, and the convoy if possible. Depending on how far away the other escorts are and whether I'm in the closest one's baffles, I will keep full power for awhile, reducing it to half and finally 2kts. I don't really make depth changes unless it's deeper.

The super-destroyers that are running in "god mode" obviously get around anything you can do. In this case, a save reload is warranted.

Mush Martin · 02-11-07, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tycho102

The super-destroyers that are running in "god mode" obviously get around anything you can do. In this case, a save reload is warranted.

sounds like you got a case of the heebee jeebees River Class or Black Swan?

Brag · 02-11-07, 05:22 PM

Mush's tactics and everyone else's so far are excellent. Depending on weather, position of escorts, a slow, quiet dive either into the convoy or away has worked for me in avoiding the escorts all together. But generally I expect the escorts to be on top of me within three minutes after launching torpedoes. Except when going flank to avoid depth charges, I always have 5-7 degrees port or starboard rudder. This seems to throw off the escorts and make them drop the DCs slightly off. With each pass they wasserbomb a bit further away.

Sailor Steve · 02-11-07, 05:27 PM

I seem to do a lot of praying.

Actually, I go deep and silent. When the enemy is over me I go to flank, down 30-50 meters and turn like crazy. After the bombs have done their thing I go back to silent.

And pray.

Finback · 02-11-07, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I seem to do a lot of praying.

Actually, I go deep and silent. When the enemy is over me I go to flank, down 30-50 meters and turn like crazy. After the bombs have done their thing I go back to silent.

And pray.

Do you have any documentation that these prayers help?

:hmm:

Sailor Steve · 02-11-07, 05:31 PM

Well, they certainly make me feel better. And give me someone else to blame when I die.

Besides Bernard, of course.

Mush Martin · 02-11-07, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I seem to do a lot of praying.

Actually, I go deep and silent. When the enemy is over me I go to flank, down 30-50 meters and turn like crazy. After the bombs have done their thing I go back to silent.

And pray.

Better to go silent just before the last two DC's

ReallyDedPoet · 02-11-07, 07:18 PM

deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

melnibonian · 02-11-07, 07:29 PM

Deep really deep and loads or prayers

02-11-07, 03:30 PM	#1
USS Sea Tiger XO Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 425 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	To quote the great wisdom of MontyPython, RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY! hehhhe, well, what I really do, try to turn 90 degrees from the dds path at slow, then when he is nearly on me, full speed, decoy launch, turn hard right/left (to where the dd came from ) 90 another decoy in the knuckle, then silent run at 25 to 50 mt until well clear! a little prayer to the god of electrons too would not hurt

02-11-07, 04:59 PM	#2
gabeeg Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fresno, CA USA Posts: 101 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	My tactics change abit with the year in which I am fighting...my favorite and probably most successful is to get ahead of the convoy and position myself submerged at periscope depth (peri down) between the first and second rows of the oncoming convoy. When they are just about on my I raise my scope and launch all forward tubes setting the torpedos for slow for close targets and medium or fast for further targets...then I launch the bow tubes set to fast. I then go all ahead slow, lower the scope and dive to 100+meters while steering into and ahead of the convoy, go silent and let the convoy slowly pass over me as I head the same direction. About the time the last ship has passed I am usually deep and then I use my hydrophone to locate the escorts and plot the most logical escape. Then considering location and remaining torpedos I will consider racing ahead and doing it all over again. __________________ Kind Regards, Harry J. Miktarian

02-11-07, 05:04 PM	#3
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	My second best move my 2nd favorite move is to run the attack attack in reverse and draw the escort group on a turn away angle retreating from their axis of advance then when I get to the sonar window moment I again flank ahead and reverse turn with a depth change downwards and run at high speed along or more correctly outside of and parralell to their axis of advance putting them behind me in a hurry with a very hard shake on multiple bogey's __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

02-11-07, 05:22 PM	#6
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Mush's tactics and everyone else's so far are excellent. Depending on weather, position of escorts, a slow, quiet dive either into the convoy or away has worked for me in avoiding the escorts all together. But generally I expect the escorts to be on top of me within three minutes after launching torpedoes. Except when going flank to avoid depth charges, I always have 5-7 degrees port or starboard rudder. This seems to throw off the escorts and make them drop the DCs slightly off. With each pass they wasserbomb a bit further away. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-11-07, 05:27 PM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I seem to do a lot of praying. Actually, I go deep and silent. When the enemy is over me I go to flank, down 30-50 meters and turn like crazy. After the bombs have done their thing I go back to silent. And pray. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-11-07, 05:14 PM	#4
tycho102 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,100 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah, the best evasion maneuver is to not get detected in the first place. After that, I just dive deep and go from there. If the enemy is right on top of me and obviously has a really good fix, I will nail the engines and make a turn at the last second. Always heading away from other escorts, and the convoy if possible. Depending on how far away the other escorts are and whether I'm in the closest one's baffles, I will keep full power for awhile, reducing it to half and finally 2kts. I don't really make depth changes unless it's deeper. The super-destroyers that are running in "god mode" obviously get around anything you can do. In this case, a save reload is warranted.

02-11-07, 05:31 PM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Well, they certainly make me feel better. And give me someone else to blame when I die. Besides Bernard, of course. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-11-07, 07:18 PM	#11
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,890 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep __________________ Back in the Day

02-11-07, 07:29 PM	#12
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Deep really deep and loads or prayers __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian