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Old 01-30-07, 10:30 AM   #1
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Say, who did Hillary Rodham intern for back in the early '70's? :hmm:

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Old 01-30-07, 10:39 AM   #2
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Say, who did Hillary Rodham intern for back in the early '70's? :hmm:

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Barry Goldwater?
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Old 01-30-07, 12:22 PM   #3
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Flippery Clinton.
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Has anybody ever heard George W. sing it, probably has or had Cheney leaning over his shoulder helping him out with the big words.
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Old 01-30-07, 12:29 PM   #5
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Wow, that's quite tenuous.
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Wow, that's quite tenuous.
Yeh.

Just a presidential candidate 100% conflicting her own words of 4 years ago on a critical campaign issue.

Whatever.......................
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Old 01-30-07, 01:16 PM   #7
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Just a presidential candidate 100% conflicting her own words of 4 years ago on a critical campaign issue.

Whatever.......................
No, the comparisons that Rush makes just dont make sense. And if he's really buggy about consistency, maybe he should think about what he's saying.

RUSHThe next bite she says that Bush should finish Iraq before he leaves.

HILLARY: I think it's the height of irresponsibility, and I really resent it. This was his decision to go to war. He went with an ill-conceived plan and an incompetently executed strategy, and we should expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office.

RUSH: All applause. You know what this is about. Bush has said that the war on terror will go on and on and on beyond his administration, and any expert in this realizes that that's the case. Mrs. Clinton here is saying (summarized), "Oh, no, no, no! You get all this stuff off the table before I take office in 2009."

Iraq does not equal the War On Terror, Rush. But your view of this depends if you believe there is one or not

The rest of the stuff is hogwash, too (geddit?). Hillary might be doing 24 backflips per second, but you wouldnt know it from that transcript.
Maybe I had to be there. Maybe it's a tone of voice issue. Maybe the audience understood. Maybe.
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Yeh.

Just a presidential candidate 100% conflicting her own words of 4 years ago on a critical campaign issue.

Whatever.......................
No, the comparisons that Rush makes just dont make sense. And if he's really buggy about consistency, maybe he should think about what he's saying.

RUSHThe next bite she says that Bush should finish Iraq before he leaves.

HILLARY: I think it's the height of irresponsibility, and I really resent it. This was his decision to go to war. He went with an ill-conceived plan and an incompetently executed strategy, and we should expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office.

RUSH: All applause. You know what this is about. Bush has said that the war on terror will go on and on and on beyond his administration, and any expert in this realizes that that's the case. Mrs. Clinton here is saying (summarized), "Oh, no, no, no! You get all this stuff off the table before I take office in 2009."

Iraq does not equal the War On Terror, Rush. But your view of this depends if you believe there is one or not

The rest of the stuff is hogwash, too (geddit?). Hillary might be doing 24 backflips per second, but you wouldnt know it from that transcript.
Maybe I had to be there. Maybe it's a tone of voice issue. Maybe the audience understood. Maybe.

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Don't pay any attention to my lies of four years ago. Listen to the lies I'm telling you now.
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I dunno. I read it three times and I didn't see any flippery. I see Rush trying to make it look like she flipped them. Her second statement was on Kosovo and he ties that to Iraq. He must still be using those drugs.
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I dunno. I read it three times and I didn't see any flippery. I see Rush trying to make it look like she flipped them. Her second statement was on Kosovo and he ties that to Iraq. He must still be using those drugs.
Forget about Rush's commentary. Just look at Hillary's words. Do I really have to point out the obvious to you?

Clinton in 2003:

"HILLARY: With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein, I just do not believe that, given the attitudes of many people in the world community today, that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems, were it not for the United States leadership, and I'm talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo where my husband could not get a Security Council resolution to save the Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States, and we had to do it alone. And so I see it somewhat differently. So forgive me for my experience and perspective."

Clinton in 2007:

"HILLARY: I said that we should not go to war unless we have allies. So he took the authority that I and others gave him and he misused it, and I regret that deeply."

What part of the word "contradiction" don't you understand?
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Forget about Rush's commentary. Just look at Hillary's words. Do I really have to point out the obvious to you?
Yes you do. I see Hilary talking about leadership and nowhere does it imply going it alone in Iraq.
Did you listen to the whole speech? Here it is.
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I dunno. I read it three times and I didn't see any flippery. I see Rush trying to make it look like she flipped them. Her second statement was on Kosovo and he ties that to Iraq. He must still be using those drugs.
Forget about Rush's commentary. Just look at Hillary's words. Do I really have to point out the obvious to you?

Clinton in 2003:

"HILLARY: With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein, I just do not believe that, given the attitudes of many people in the world community today, that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems, were it not for the United States leadership, and I'm talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo where my husband could not get a Security Council resolution to save the Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States, and we had to do it alone. And so I see it somewhat differently. So forgive me for my experience and perspective."

Clinton in 2007:

"HILLARY: I said that we should not go to war unless we have allies. So he took the authority that I and others gave him and he misused it, and I regret that deeply."

What part of the word "contradiction" don't you understand?
seems like hillary pulled a john kerry to me.
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Old 01-30-07, 04:22 PM   #14
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I dunno. I read it three times and I didn't see any flippery. I see Rush trying to make it look like she flipped them. Her second statement was on Kosovo and he ties that to Iraq. He must still be using those drugs.
Forget about Rush's commentary. Just look at Hillary's words. Do I really have to point out the obvious to you?

Clinton in 2003:

"HILLARY: With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein, I just do not believe that, given the attitudes of many people in the world community today, that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems, were it not for the United States leadership, and I'm talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo where my husband could not get a Security Council resolution to save the Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States, and we had to do it alone. And so I see it somewhat differently. So forgive me for my experience and perspective."

Clinton in 2007:

"HILLARY: I said that we should not go to war unless we have allies. So he took the authority that I and others gave him and he misused it, and I regret that deeply."

What part of the word "contradiction" don't you understand?
seems like hillary pulled a john kerry to me.
Or a John McCain. Check this out: http://therealmccain.com/

I thought this thread was about Senator Clinton not being able to sing the national anthem? Oh yeah, I forgot. It's just another hack job thread like that debunked Barrack Obama one from a few weeks back. What a surprise.
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