Duds in GWX

Kpt. Lehmann · 01-22-07, 09:16 AM

Just an FYI, torpedo reliability in SH3 appears to be hard-coded. This is an element we've been unable to influence.

Only torpedo ranges where necessary, vertical maneuverability, and damage output potential was changed. (the last being to balance weapons vs unit damage models)

Vertical maneuverability was only changed to increase the time it takes for a fired torpedo to reach the running depth set by the player. In stock SH3 the torps would achieve running depth nearly instantly. It appears this modification has no impact in-game. Basically we just changed the torpedo elevator control surface maximum travel from 15 degrees to 3 degrees.

AVGWarhawk · 01-22-07, 09:36 AM

Don't forget the premature explosions as well. They are worse than the dudes. It kind of gives away your presence

. Rough weather can give you the premature detonations. Kind of a two edge sword. You can get in very easy with the weather but all can be for not if the torp prematures on you

Brag · 01-22-07, 11:26 AM

I've had relatively few duds in both stock SHIII and GWX as long as I stick close to 90 degrees AOB. But duds are part of life. Rough seas cause problems and give advantages, again the vagaries of life. All in all, GWX gives satisfactory realism and uncertainty of the outcome of any action.

AVGWarhawk · 01-22-07, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brag

I've had relatively few duds in both stock SHIII and GWX as long as I stick close to 90 degrees AOB. But duds are part of life. Rough seas cause problems and give advantages, again the vagaries of life. All in all, GWX gives satisfactory realism and uncertainty of the outcome of any action.

I agree!

Mooncatt · 01-22-07, 11:37 AM

im playing stock atm and usually have at least one per patrol. Bernard keeps picking dodgy fish to load onto my boat

EM2(SS) · 01-22-07, 06:49 PM

First off, thanks for all the replies.

quote:
AVGWarhawkDon't forget the premature explosions as well. They are worse than the dudes. It kind of gives away your presence

. Rough weather can give you the premature detonations. Kind of a two edge sword. You can get in very easy with the weather but all can be for not if the torp prematures on you

How true.

Last night got into a great convoy (9/40) somewhere north of AM53.

It had one Large Tanker, a few Medium Tankers and Small Tankers and a couple Pyro's, in addition to Small Merchants and such.

Weather was 15m winds, overcast, with medium fog.

Got within 540m of a Flower and not detected!!!!

(Totally perpindicular to it)

Lined up 2 torps each on a Large Tanker and Pyro. Turned out due to duds, bad weather and my poor aim that I only sunk a Small Mercahant. I evaded on the surface to the rear of the convoy. Sunk a Lake ship that was a straggler but could not catch up to convoy due to weather (it was going at 10kts)

While not the big haul that i wanted , it was a blast. Playing GWX with high realism sure does make you proud even when its not a big score like the constant 100k ton patrols in vanilla SH3.

So once again thank you GWX team

01-22-07, 09:16 AM	#1
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,993 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Just an FYI, torpedo reliability in SH3 appears to be hard-coded. This is an element we've been unable to influence. Only torpedo ranges where necessary, vertical maneuverability, and damage output potential was changed. (the last being to balance weapons vs unit damage models) Vertical maneuverability was only changed to increase the time it takes for a fired torpedo to reach the running depth set by the player. In stock SH3 the torps would achieve running depth nearly instantly. It appears this modification has no impact in-game. Basically we just changed the torpedo elevator control surface maximum travel from 15 degrees to 3 degrees. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

01-22-07, 09:36 AM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,254 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Don't forget the premature explosions as well. They are worse than the dudes. It kind of gives away your presence. Rough weather can give you the premature detonations. Kind of a two edge sword. You can get in very easy with the weather but all can be for not if the torp prematures on you __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-22-07, 11:26 AM	#3
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I've had relatively few duds in both stock SHIII and GWX as long as I stick close to 90 degrees AOB. But duds are part of life. Rough seas cause problems and give advantages, again the vagaries of life. All in all, GWX gives satisfactory realism and uncertainty of the outcome of any action. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

01-22-07, 11:37 AM	#5
Mooncatt Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Keighley UK Posts: 938 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	im playing stock atm and usually have at least one per patrol. Bernard keeps picking dodgy fish to load onto my boat __________________

01-22-07, 06:49 PM	#6
EM2(SS) Watch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colchester, CT Posts: 22 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	First off, thanks for all the replies. quote: AVGWarhawkDon't forget the premature explosions as well. They are worse than the dudes. It kind of gives away your presence. Rough weather can give you the premature detonations. Kind of a two edge sword. You can get in very easy with the weather but all can be for not if the torp prematures on you How true. Last night got into a great convoy (9/40) somewhere north of AM53. It had one Large Tanker, a few Medium Tankers and Small Tankers and a couple Pyro's, in addition to Small Merchants and such. Weather was 15m winds, overcast, with medium fog. Got within 540m of a Flower and not detected!!!! (Totally perpindicular to it) Lined up 2 torps each on a Large Tanker and Pyro. Turned out due to duds, bad weather and my poor aim that I only sunk a Small Mercahant. I evaded on the surface to the rear of the convoy. Sunk a Lake ship that was a straggler but could not catch up to convoy due to weather (it was going at 10kts) While not the big haul that i wanted , it was a blast. Playing GWX with high realism sure does make you proud even when its not a big score like the constant 100k ton patrols in vanilla SH3. So once again thank you GWX team