what can you do when a DD has pinged your sub?

Ole · 01-16-07, 03:51 PM

i got even big problems with an armed trawler, he spotted my dived sub, engines were off long time ago. i dived deeper, moved only on schleichfahrt, this guy always knows where i am. its impossible to escape. 100m, course changes, schleichfahrt only, full flank when he drops his bombs and after a few seconds i stopped the engines, he doesn´t care. he always knows exactly where i am. any suggestions what to do? its a bit to far to dive home, otherwise my friends could shoot him. i go no torps left and he has got no more bombs.
what a trawler, he is realy amazing

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and,yes i read the manual several times. i heading home from a convoy attack, i dived into the convoy and out without being detected, but this one is incredible.

Abd_von_Mumit · 01-16-07, 03:58 PM

You can risk surfacing and shooting him with your deck gun, that should be quite easy. Waiting till he asks his friends for help will not bring you home. Other idea would be ramming him, but that's much more difficult to do - he's small and fast.

Ole · 01-16-07, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Abd_von_Mumit

You can risk surfacing and shooting him with your deck gun, that should be quite easy. Waiting till he asks his friends for help will not bring you home. Other idea would be ramming him, but that's much more difficult to do - he's small and fast.

i tried both. lost one man from my guncrew, damaged my flak and deckgun when trying to sink him with my boat. he is always heading directly over my position, even when i drifted for a longer time.

Abd_von_Mumit · 01-16-07, 04:09 PM

So... now the last thing is to meet him face to face... or bow to bow. His boat could be weaker, could be not. You won't know till you try. Or dive as deep, as it's possible and pray for a miracle. Pray at sonar station, of course...

raymond6751 · 01-16-07, 04:15 PM

Set your rudder for 5 or 10 degrees away from the nearest DD. Keep it there.

When they set up for a DC run, they will move in a straight line to where you used to be. I don't think they can work against a turning target.

I have survived using this method. It might help.

You can also zig zag using the 5 and 10 degree turns off your intended course. Don't turn too often though or it becomes a straight line to them.

Sailor Steve · 01-16-07, 04:29 PM

Think like a real u-boat commander. Destroyers are both dangerous and a waste of good torpedoes. Attack merchants.

stefano79 · 01-16-07, 04:32 PM

but if the DD becomes to close the distance and wants my ******* my first objective is sink him with 3 torpedoes and one T5

Gezoes · 01-16-07, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ole

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Originally Posted by Abd_von_Mumit

You can risk surfacing and shooting him with your deck gun, that should be quite easy. Waiting till he asks his friends for help will not bring you home. Other idea would be ramming him, but that's much more difficult to do - he's small and fast.

i tried both. lost one man from my guncrew, damaged my flak and deckgun when trying to sink him with my boat. he is always heading directly over my position, even when i drifted for a longer time.

Now there's a deja-vu. Looks like you met what I like to call the HMS Whirlwind. At least that's what the DD was called that chased me in the Med yesterday (GWX). Ended with a bloody surface battle in the night off Tunis since I couldn't stay down anymore. I didn't ram her, but man, did I want to LOL!

IRONxMortlock · 01-16-07, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ole

100m, course changes, schleichfahrt only, full flank when he drops his bombs and after a few seconds i stopped the engines, he doesn?t care. he always knows exactly where i am. any suggestions what to do?

I know it says in the GWX manual that you can move undetected at flank just after a DC explosion due to the disturbance in the water caused by the explosion however I think this is imperfectly modelled in the game. When I first got GWX I did this and I found it very difficult to evade the enemy.

Now I never go flank when the enemy is near me. I go as deep as possible (200m+) and run silently at 2knts. Slow but much more effective.
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Shaffer4 · 01-16-07, 06:41 PM

Cackle at the inaccuracy of the Russian DE's Side Launched Depth Charges?

Then again, I've only done a Black Sea Campaign, and she is a deep pond... and I a slippery little Type IID. I've only been Pinged once in 3 patrols.

melnibonian · 01-16-07, 07:07 PM

The only way to evade the enemy is to go deep and in silent runnig. You can try to go ahead flank but you should try it only after you release the bold decoy (later in the war) or when you're in the baffles of the DD. Obviously by going fast you can be picked up but in those particular cases you can actually get away. It's too difficult and too risky if you ask me though

01-16-07, 03:51 PM	#1
Ole Loader Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 88 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	i got even big problems with an armed trawler, he spotted my dived sub, engines were off long time ago. i dived deeper, moved only on schleichfahrt, this guy always knows where i am. its impossible to escape. 100m, course changes, schleichfahrt only, full flank when he drops his bombs and after a few seconds i stopped the engines, he doesn´t care. he always knows exactly where i am. any suggestions what to do? its a bit to far to dive home, otherwise my friends could shoot him. i go no torps left and he has got no more bombs. what a trawler, he is realy amazing edit and,yes i read the manual several times. i heading home from a convoy attack, i dived into the convoy and out without being detected, but this one is incredible. __________________

01-16-07, 03:58 PM	#2
Abd_von_Mumit The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warszawa, Polska Posts: 1,453 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 4	You can risk surfacing and shooting him with your deck gun, that should be quite easy. Waiting till he asks his friends for help will not bring you home. Other idea would be ramming him, but that's much more difficult to do - he's small and fast. __________________ Long, hard, wet and full of seamen. My precious. SH3+GWX+OLC — sunk x4, retired x2; SH5+TDW — still exploring My SH5 mods: EQuaTool - Elite Quality Map Tools, Patrol Routine Scripts, No Logo Intro Menu_Animation, Less Annoying Stopwatch Links: SH5 mods I use, FileFront, Manual plotting how-to

01-16-07, 04:09 PM	#4
Abd_von_Mumit The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warszawa, Polska Posts: 1,453 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 4	So... now the last thing is to meet him face to face... or bow to bow. His boat could be weaker, could be not. You won't know till you try. Or dive as deep, as it's possible and pray for a miracle. Pray at sonar station, of course... __________________ Long, hard, wet and full of seamen. My precious. SH3+GWX+OLC — sunk x4, retired x2; SH5+TDW — still exploring My SH5 mods: EQuaTool - Elite Quality Map Tools, Patrol Routine Scripts, No Logo Intro Menu_Animation, Less Annoying Stopwatch Links: SH5 mods I use, FileFront, Manual plotting how-to

01-16-07, 04:15 PM	#5
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	Try this Set your rudder for 5 or 10 degrees away from the nearest DD. Keep it there. When they set up for a DC run, they will move in a straight line to where you used to be. I don't think they can work against a turning target. I have survived using this method. It might help. You can also zig zag using the 5 and 10 degree turns off your intended course. Don't turn too often though or it becomes a straight line to them.

01-16-07, 04:29 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Think like a real u-boat commander. Destroyers are both dangerous and a waste of good torpedoes. Attack merchants. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

01-16-07, 04:32 PM	#7
stefano79 Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	but if the DD becomes to close the distance and wants my ******* my first objective is sink him with 3 torpedoes and one T5

01-16-07, 06:41 PM	#10
Shaffer4 Ensign Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Walla Walla, Wa Posts: 223 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Cackle at the inaccuracy of the Russian DE's Side Launched Depth Charges? Then again, I've only done a Black Sea Campaign, and she is a deep pond... and I a slippery little Type IID. I've only been Pinged once in 3 patrols. __________________

01-16-07, 07:07 PM	#11
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	The only way to evade the enemy is to go deep and in silent runnig. You can try to go ahead flank but you should try it only after you release the bold decoy (later in the war) or when you're in the baffles of the DD. Obviously by going fast you can be picked up but in those particular cases you can actually get away. It's too difficult and too risky if you ask me though __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian