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Old 12-20-06, 09:27 AM   #1
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Melbonian...load it up (SH3Gen) and note your fps. Then try it again without. I have a custom built system with a 1.5 gig Ram, 7800 GS OC card, and dedicated 80 gig game drive...defragged and clean as can be. I was getting 40 fps with SH3Gen....100+ without it.
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Old 12-20-06, 09:31 AM   #2
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Melbonian...load it up (SH3Gen) and note your fps. Then try it again without. I have a custom built system with a 1.5 gig Ram, 7800 GS OC card, and dedicated 80 gig game drive...defragged and clean as can be. I was getting 40 fps with SH3Gen....100+ without it.
Wow

I never expected to see such a drop in the frame rates due to SH3Gen. Still 40FPS is not that bad actually. I mean the game is functional isn't it? Well close to harbours it might be a bit slower but so far I haven't seen any problems. I have a 3.3GHz with 512MB RAM and 128MB graphics card. Not top class machine but I still have no problems with GWX
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Old 12-20-06, 10:39 AM   #3
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Hmm, I haven't checked the actual performance difference between running SH3 Gen and not with GWX on my comp. I haven't noticed any difference though while playing so that is all that matters for me! Out of sight out of mind.

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Old 12-22-06, 07:29 AM   #4
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Melbonian...load it up (SH3Gen) and note your fps. Then try it again without. I have a custom built system with a 1.5 gig Ram, 7800 GS OC card, and dedicated 80 gig game drive...defragged and clean as can be. I was getting 40 fps with SH3Gen....100+ without it.
This sounds a bit exaggerated. Please check if you are using insane Intelligence settings, resulting in a completely messed up map. I have tested with the default settings, and there was never any problem.

Sure, sh3Gen is adding a lot of stuff that the game engine has to process, so of course there will be a performance impact.

But from the technical point of view, the maximum additional workload will be a couple of hundred additional graphic primitives which have to be rendered in the map. I am programming 3D graphics in other contexts and never saw a drastic performance hit with even thousands of comparably simple primitives, so if UBI's implementation isn't completely fubar, there should not be such a drastic impact.

I will however take this report very seriously and test myself as soon as I have GWX running.

Some hints how this could be circumvented:

-disable map output through Sh3Gen's General Options
-set your intelligence level to default
-close Sh3Gen when it's finished generating files

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Old 12-28-06, 08:55 AM   #5
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1.) After SilverGhost's post I have played GWX over the holidays, tested with Sh3Gen and I can say that there is no noticeable impact on framerates. The fps problems I had on my mid level system (Mobile Barton 2500 @ 2.2Ghz , 1GB PC3200, GeForce 6800 @ 370/800), disappeared when I disabled filtering in the D3D9 fix, but that is probably specific to my video card.

Sorry if I sound like I am defending my application, but I don't believe anymore that the additional information added by Sh3Gen is having an impact on SHIII,

2.) Sh3Gen 0.7.1 was released 6 months before GWX, and the default settings are optimized for cmpaign files I was using at the time, i.e. Improved U-Boat and such. Because of the generally richer campaign environment in GWX, Sh3Gen's default settings will give a much bigger amount of information than I intended. Sh3Gen 0.8 is in the works, and will come with different parameters, optimized for GWX, as soon as I have had enough testing time. Until that it will be necessary to lower the Intelligence setting to about 50-60% of the default value if you want the same amount of information as before GWX.

Hope that helps.

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Old 12-28-06, 09:05 AM   #6
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I have tested and have noted no difference in frame rate with and without SH3Gen on my setups.
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Old 12-28-06, 09:57 AM   #7
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good grief another time compressor
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Old 12-28-06, 10:29 AM   #8
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Oh stop you 1X kind of guy........
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Old 12-28-06, 01:36 PM   #9
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I have used SH3Gen on Silent Hunter III (modded), TGW and now GWX and I find NO drop in the framerate.

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