i love the middle east

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

All your treaties and diplomatic non-sense is gibberish compared to the Verb of Allah. Successful nuclear disarmament might even be a sign of the Apocalypse: how does anyone intend to close the gates of hell and stop the legions of demons with petty bullets and war machines alone?

Well I'll be damned if that's not a 'nuke the muslims' post right there. Unless I totally misread something.

[PeriscopeDepth]

I just wonder what would happen if I said typical Jew _______ or typical black ______ and MEANT IT. I bet there'd be a reaction then, and it would certainly be warranted. So why is it not now?

PD

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

I just wonder what would happen if I said typical Jew _______ or typical black ______ and MEANT IT. I bet there'd be a reaction then, and it would certainly be warranted. So why is it not now?

PD

You can call me a typical white man or cracker ______ and MEAN IT whenever you wish. Remember sticks and stones may break my bones but names/words will never hurt me. Its the PC disease which will hurt us in the end.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Originally Posted by waste gate

You can call me a typical white man or cracker ______ and MEAN IT whenever you wish. Remember sticks and stones may break my bones but names/words will never hurt me. Its the PC disease which will hurt us in the end.

My point being (somewhat idealist, I know) is that words/names do eventually lead to sticks and stones. I just don't think it's a good idea for Americans to become comfortable with saying typical _______. That's all I have to say in this thread.

PD

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

My point being (somewhat idealist, I know) is that words/names do eventually lead to sticks and stones. I just don't think it's a good idea for Americans to become comfortable with saying typical _______. That's all I have to say in this thread.

PD

I think we should be truthful no matter how hard it hurts. Speak the truth, above all. Eradicate all PC nonsense, and call a horse a horse. Call a dog a dog. For those who are as insecure that would resort to throwing sticks and stones, there's something called law enforcement that deals with assault. We need to use more of it.

[CCIP]

Objectivity!

That's right, let's just call religion its rightful name, "opiate for the people". I'd be perfectly happy with that term and noone would be upset. One bunch of delusional idiots ripping another bunch of delusion idiots. Hooray, noone is upset and I'm not going to hell!

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

I think we should be truthful no matter how hard it hurts. Speak the truth, above all. Eradicate all PC nonsense, and call a horse a horse. Call a dog a dog. For those who are as insecure that would resort to throwing sticks and stones, there's something called law enforcement that deals with assault. We need to use more of it.

But now the PC madness has made up something called a 'hate crime'. So now government sanctions thought controll and SCOTUS rules that discrimination used to correct past discrimination is the law. We are lost.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Objectivity!

That's right, let's just call religion its rightful name, "opiate for the people". I'd be perfectly happy with that term and noone would be upset. One bunch of delusional idiots ripping another bunch of delusion idiots. Hooray, noone is upset and I'm not going to hell!

Sure. There are idiots everywhere. Religious people as deluisional idiots? Why not call athiest/socialists "opiate for the blind people" then. These people continue to believe that which has been a failure for well over 100 years, ya know. Can't be more delusional than that. So I guess we're all square, ain't we?

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by waste gate

But now the PC madness has made up something called a 'hate crime'. So now government sanctions thought controll and SCOTUS rules that discrimination used to correct past discrimination is the law. We are lost.

I'm not convinced all is lost...just yet.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

I just wonder what would happen if I said typical Jew _______ or typical black ______ and MEANT IT. I bet there'd be a reaction then, and it would certainly be warranted. So why is it not now?

For what it's worth, though it won't make a difference to you: I was referring to an ideaology, not to a people.

[TteFAboB]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Well I'll be damned if that's not a 'nuke the muslims' post right there. Unless I totally misread something.

Start the damnation then. :rotfl:

I'm not advocating anything at all in my post but trying to express how Ahmadinejad could seek evidence to try to prove that the Apocalypse is imminent (a matter of years) and change his actions and perspectives accordingly with that in mind. Are you familiar with the Apocalypse? I do not know if this has survived at all in post-Khomeini Iran but in traditional Islam Jesus is a saviour of the Muslims too, the Armageddon cannot be fought by the Muslims. All Muslim soldiers who join to fight on Satan's side are not Muslims any longer. Anyway, if the Apocalypse is imminent then pieces of paper have no value at all as soon as, damn I can't avoid it, all hell breaks loose. :rotfl:

So considering Ahmadinejad is certain of this but also that he's on Allah's side, how would he triumph over the multiple enemies without nuclear weapons, especially if the enemies do have them? In this sense he would be correct to see whoever proposes nuclear disarmament as a servant of the devil, preparing the path to his destruction, and would certainly use all diplomacy as a theatrical play while secretly attempting to acquire nuclear weapons.

That's what I tried to say. I thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt but chances are you haven't misread anything, most likely I have failed to express myself clearly enough.

Now if you ask me what I think of all of this, I say again: I think Ahmadinejad, Khamenei and whoever else shares the same vision are wrong. Starting by the most important element, the prophecies. Ignoring the content itself which do have a great weight on the scale, a prophecy can generally be considered to be certain the longer it has remained true, as generally speaking again many prophecies can be true only untill further notice. Example? Iraq. The Gulf wars are considered as evidence. But who said there won't be a third Gulf War? Or a fourth one? Who said that this war is the war of the prophecy? As unfair a comparison as it may be, compared to the American continent the Middle East is a very hot war zone indeed. In 2400 years power has shifted multiple times, conquerors came and left, kingdoms and nations were born, destroyed, transformed, people changed, migrated, disappeared. All more true then? Only that indeed it is very likely for the Armageddon to take place in Middle East as another but last war. But given the amount of conflicts it's extremely difficult not to say impossible to accurately pin-point it: this is the fulfilment of the prophecy. Untill further notice.

The rest is all non-sense. Forcing things to be true, ignoring facts, liying, it's a big sandbox with adults trying to fit the red square object through the blue-cylinder hole. Minus the innocence, it is done with malice. http://www.exceptionalteaching.net/grp1.html

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon
[quote

. When was the last time you heard an Isreali PM say he wanted to wipe anybody off the map?

What about Mr. Avigdor Lieberman

In 2002, the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth quoted Lieberman in a Cabinet meeting saying that the Palestinians should be given an ultimatum that "At 8am we'll bomb all the commercial centers...at noon we'll bomb their gas stations...at two we'll bomb their banks....”[7] In 2003, Ha'aretz reported that Lieberman called for thousands of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel to be drowned in the Dead Sea and offered to provide the buses to take them there.[8] In May 2004, he said that 90 percent of Israel's 1.2 million Arabs would "have to find a new Arab entity" in which to live beyond Israel's borders. "They have no place here. They can take their bundles and get lost," he said.[9]
In November 2006 Lieberman called for the execution of any Arab Members of Knesset who meet with representatives of the Palestinian government. He said: "World War II ended with the Nurenberg trials. The heads of the Nazi regime, along with their collaborators, were executed. I hope this will be the fate of the collaborators in [the Knesset]."[10] In response, Arab Israeli Knesset member Ahmed Tibi, demanded that "a criminal investigation be initiated against Lieberman for violating the law against incitement and racism".[11] He called Lieberman "a very dangerous and sophisticated politician who has won his support through race hatred." Lieberman was cleared of racism charges by the Israeli Deputy State prosecutor, while admitting that the office objected to the content of his statement. Tibi, strongly objected to Lieberman's ministerial appointment, describing him as "a racist and a fascist". Labour minister Ophir Pines-Paz, who resigned over Lieberman's appointment, echoed Tibi's remarks, saying that Lieberman was tainted "by racist declarations and declarations that harm the democratic character of Israel".[12]

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Fish

What about Mr. Avigdor Lieberman

What about the fact that the PLO and Hamas charters, in existance way before Avigdor Lieberman even arrived in Israel, call for the destruction of Israel?

A case of putting the cart before the horse, perhaps? Who needs context!

[kiwi_2005]

Crazy bald heads.

War, war, war.

[stabiz]

The Israeli government is just as crazy as the Palestinians, by the way.