Shoulder-SAM for subs, Yay or Nay?

RedMenace · 11-06-06, 09:41 PM

What do you all think of using that shoulder SAM you get when you are surfaced on some subs? Is it worth using at times or is just better to haul ass and dive deep?

Molon Labe · 11-06-06, 09:43 PM

Stock: usually worth it
Modded: usually safer staying deep

ASWnut101 · 11-06-06, 09:49 PM

I use them as offensive weapons, not for protection.

OKO · 11-07-06, 01:20 AM

As Molon Labe said, in stock, where SAM are over effective, it's usefull to clean the garden before playing with your fishes.
But if you use the LWAMI MOD, you will use them only when you see you couldn't avoid a MAD detection or an incoming helo.
And with the MOD, the Orion become many times harder to hit (need to much time to go to conning tower depth and to shoot before the Orion is out of range).

So, I suppose ASWnut is playing with stock DW and not LWAMI.

Kapitan · 11-07-06, 05:26 AM

I rarely use them if i do sometimes i use them as signal flares

but hey to me i dont need them the sail view is nice as it is.

SeaQueen · 11-07-06, 06:24 AM

I'd rather go deep. In stock, the aircraft are slow to declare something hostile, so they're often slow to attack a surfaced submarine unless you fired a weapon. That means you can often shoot one, but I still don't think it's wise. Usually helos have friends. So... you pop up and shoot, but you're still spotted and might get targeted by over the horizon ASCM.

It's just safer to go deep and avoid detection in the first place.

RedMenace · 11-07-06, 10:59 AM

Where can I find this LWAMI mod?:hmm:

Molon Labe · 11-07-06, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RedMenace

Where can I find this LWAMI mod?:hmm:

The "normal" version, 3.02, is here: http://www.subguru.com/downloads.html (scroll down a bit)

And this is the experimental/advanced version: http://www.commanders-academy.com/fo...ead.php?t=7295

RedMenace · 11-10-06, 11:38 AM

Spaseeba, tavaryaeesh!

ASWnut101 · 11-10-06, 06:41 PM

come again?

Rob86TA · 11-10-06, 11:27 PM

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Spaseeba, tavaryaeesh!

-> Thank you comrade!

RedMenace · 11-11-06, 02:02 AM

Atleechna, moy droog! Tee menya ponemyaosh!

Driftwood · 11-11-06, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Molon Labe

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Originally Posted by RedMenace

Where can I find this LWAMI mod?:hmm:

The "normal" version, 3.02, is here: http://www.subguru.com/downloads.html (scroll down a bit)

And this is the experimental/advanced version: http://www.commanders-academy.com/fo...ead.php?t=7295

ML, do you know if there is more than one version of 4.X? Seems to me LW had two versions. 4.0 and the 4.0 Playtest version but they may be one and the same.

Molon Labe · 11-11-06, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Driftwood

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Originally Posted by Molon Labe

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Originally Posted by RedMenace

Where can I find this LWAMI mod?:hmm:

The "normal" version, 3.02, is here: http://www.subguru.com/downloads.html (scroll down a bit)

And this is the experimental/advanced version: http://www.commanders-academy.com/fo...ead.php?t=7295

ML, do you know if there is more than one version of 4.X? Seems to me LW had two versions. 4.0 and the 4.0 Playtest version but they may be one and the same.

They are either the same, or one is a slightly updated version that works slightly better.

11-06-06, 09:41 PM	#1
RedMenace Chief Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 319 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Shoulder-SAM for subs, Yay or Nay? What do you all think of using that shoulder SAM you get when you are surfaced on some subs? Is it worth using at times or is just better to haul ass and dive deep? __________________

11-06-06, 09:43 PM	#2
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	Stock: usually worth it Modded: usually safer staying deep __________________

11-06-06, 09:49 PM	#3
ASWnut101 Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,021 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I use them as offensive weapons, not for protection. __________________

11-07-06, 05:26 AM	#5
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	I rarely use them if i do sometimes i use them as signal flares but hey to me i dont need them the sail view is nice as it is. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

11-07-06, 06:24 AM	#6
SeaQueen Naval Royalty Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 1,185 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'd rather go deep. In stock, the aircraft are slow to declare something hostile, so they're often slow to attack a surfaced submarine unless you fired a weapon. That means you can often shoot one, but I still don't think it's wise. Usually helos have friends. So... you pop up and shoot, but you're still spotted and might get targeted by over the horizon ASCM. It's just safer to go deep and avoid detection in the first place. Last edited by SeaQueen; 11-07-06 at 06:28 AM.

11-07-06, 01:20 AM	#4
OKO Commander Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Solar system, mainly on earth Posts: 476 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	As Molon Labe said, in stock, where SAM are over effective, it's usefull to clean the garden before playing with your fishes. But if you use the LWAMI MOD, you will use them only when you see you couldn't avoid a MAD detection or an incoming helo. And with the MOD, the Orion become many times harder to hit (need to much time to go to conning tower depth and to shoot before the Orion is out of range). So, I suppose ASWnut is playing with stock DW and not LWAMI.

11-07-06, 10:59 AM	#7
RedMenace Chief Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 319 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Where can I find this LWAMI mod?:hmm: __________________

11-10-06, 11:38 AM	#9
RedMenace Chief Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 319 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Spaseeba, tavaryaeesh! __________________

11-10-06, 06:41 PM	#10
ASWnut101 Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,021 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	come again? __________________

11-11-06, 02:02 AM	#12
RedMenace Chief Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 319 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Atleechna, moy droog! Tee menya ponemyaosh! __________________