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Old 10-17-06, 09:03 PM   #76
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:hmm: I dont hate america, but I dont like the governement of today
There are quite a few Americans that feel the same way.

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and about that private airplane over NY...Now ''He's American'' ''small plane''
dont forget what can be packed inside the SMALL plane. enough to create severe damage to an high building.

If they would allow small private planes fly over NY, and some terrorist groups find a way to do the same thing without too much trouble. Hey you got urself an second 9/11 not as bad as the original one...but enough to shake the world into a second terror.

Planes over NY = NO! if ur learned from 9/11 planes must go around and now where near the city at all. but yeah...can u save NY from Terrorist attacks...No not really.there are many ways for terrorist to sneak inside any city in any country to create havoc.
Well, let me try to explain to you what it means to live in America.

General aviation is part of our country. [Airlines are commercial aviation, different issue] It's something that many Americans enjoy. We do it as sport, hobby, convienence and competition. It's part of our way of life.

Just because some fanatics attacked our country using airplanes, it doesn't mean we are going to stop flying. It doesn't mean that we are going to close down airspace around cities where small planes fly. It means we will take more precautions and possibly stronger regulations to prevent a repeat occurance.
Some things have changed. Life may be a little more difficult. Regulations are enforced and security is tighter.

However, there is no way in hell we will ever give up our way of life or any freedom in our country because of the actions of some terrorist. To do that, to live our lives in fear, to take away any portion of our way of life, is surrenduring to the terroist in defeat.
just in principle, and without wanting to refer to anything specific: would you agree to this statement: "One person's (nation's) freedom ends where that freedom starts to limit the freedom of another person(nation), nobody has a right to live at the cost of somebody else", a simple Yes or No would be enough?!
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Old 10-17-06, 09:14 PM   #77
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just in principle, and without wanting to refer to anything specific: would you agree to this statement: "One person's (nation's) freedom ends where that freedom starts to limit the freedom of another person(nation), nobody has a right to live at the cost of somebody else", a simple Yes or No would be enough?!
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Old 10-17-06, 09:37 PM   #78
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I take this evasive action as a No.
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Old 10-17-06, 09:45 PM   #79
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Remember: Americans are Europeans too. From where do you think you Come from? You people not appeared out of nothing.
Only some Americans are of European extraction, not all. How typically European of you to think so.

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Yes. And you think you escaped your history just by moving in another part of the planet? I hope not, this would be very foolish.
Actually that's exactly what the Americans of European extraction did. We left you. That's why we call it "The New World".
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nobody has a right to live at the cost of somebody else

This part I agree with.


The rest looks like a trap......
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Because this present system teach's how not to do something. Therefore things will "change" and be "different".
It still doesn't answer the question what should be done. This inability to produce a positive plan of their own is, I believe, the Democrats major failing and the reason why they lost control of the congress and the white house in the first place.

Hey, don't get me wrong Brad. If you're right about numbers 1-3 it might actually put the Dems back in power, but then they are going to have to come up with something more substantial or they'll be back out again in short order.
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Hey, don't get me wrong Brad. If you're right about numbers 1-3 it might actually put the Dems back in power, but then they are going to have to come up with something more substantial or they'll be back out again in short order.
I know. If they get some power this November it will give them a few years to make it or break it. The only thing I can say is time will tell.
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Hey, don't get me wrong Brad. If you're right about numbers 1-3 it might actually put the Dems back in power, but then they are going to have to come up with something more substantial or they'll be back out again in short order.
I know. If they get some power this November it will give them a few years to make it or break it. The only thing I can say is time will tell.
Gentlemen, start your stopwatches.
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Hey, don't get me wrong Brad. If you're right about numbers 1-3 it might actually put the Dems back in power, but then they are going to have to come up with something more substantial or they'll be back out again in short order.
I know. If they get some power this November it will give them a few years to make it or break it. The only thing I can say is time will tell.
Gentlemen, start your stopwatches.
I often wonder why the Democrats put up with Charlie Rangel. I believe he's responsible for more lost dem votes than just about anything else.
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I often wonder why the Democrats put up with Charlie Rangel. I believe he's responsible for more lost dem votes than just about anything else.
Because if the dems say anything, racism would be screamed and most voting blacks are democrat. But you knew that anyway.
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I often wonder why the Democrats put up with Charlie Rangel. I believe he's responsible for more lost dem votes than just about anything else.
Because if the dems say anything, racism would be screamed and most voting blacks are democrat. But you knew that anyway.
I knew what Brad? Fear of racism accusations don't stop the Dems from badmouthing Rice, Powell, or Thomas. It's no secret to anyone that Rangel is a REAL racist and as such he alienates a far larger number of people than would be mad if he were dumped like they did to Joe Leiberman. Besides, how could anyone claim racism if someone like Obama were to drive the effort?

Loose 5 votes to save 1? Sounds like a penny wise pound foolish approach to me...
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I often wonder why the Democrats put up with Charlie Rangel. I believe he's responsible for more lost dem votes than just about anything else.
Because if the dems say anything, racism would be screamed and most voting blacks are democrat. But you knew that anyway.
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I often wonder why the Democrats put up with Charlie Rangel. I believe he's responsible for more lost dem votes than just about anything else.
Because if the dems say anything, racism would be screamed and most voting blacks are democrat. But you knew that anyway.
Please join Michelle Malkin for milk and cookies.
I just realized now that there are fresher cookies, still hot.
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Loose 5 votes to save 1? Sounds like a penny wise pound foolish approach to me...
It's the voters that make or break who's going to be their politician.
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Loose 5 votes to save 1? Sounds like a penny wise pound foolish approach to me...
It's the voters that make or break who's going to be their politician.
Yeah but it's the party who encourages or discourages challengers to the nomination. Is Rangle that powerfully entrenched with his constituency that suitable replacement cannot be found?
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