What happened to this forum? - Page 3

Immacolata · 10-05-06, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt USA

If no one cared to share their talents as modders, we would all still be playing STOCK SH3. We would have played it for 2-3 months, then tossed it out the window. But, now it just gets better and better. If you don't like it, don't visit here or Ubi, and make your own mod.

See that's the whole point of the thread in the first place. I visit here to get the info so I can make mods. But now, the information has stopped flowing because the team mods keep everything under wraps until release. People used to share, that has slowed down to a crawl because of this.

It's no longer an open community, it's a secret society.

I for one find that just natural and applaud it. It is sometimes impossible to find out what the hell is going on. Myriads of mods bob to the surface and if you miss the beat you suddenly find yourself staring at terrapin's homepage and feel completely lost. The fixation of the modding proces into an arbitrary number of collectives is how I like to see things. They find something, they keep it untill they are ready. Fine with me. They do share, but why let other people run away with their work, before they get to harvest the admiration and honour of their release?

mkubani · 10-05-06, 08:55 AM

As a moderator on some other flight simulator forum with 4 year experience there, all I can say is that this thread will lead to nothing constructive but may well start another flame war. I would have locked it after the first post.

And as a 3rd party modeller myself for IL-2 Sturmovik/Pacific Fighters sim, I don't see any major issue with this modding community. Good luck and big thank you to all SH 3modders who are willing to sacrifice their spare time for others for free no matter if they are involved in small or large projects.

Onkel Neal · 10-05-06, 06:47 PM

We've had out ups and downs but for the most part, people have tried to keep things professional.

Steeltrap · 10-05-06, 10:09 PM

From my point of view as a new user of mods (I've been at SubSim a while but only just got a rig able to run the game!) I've found the level of assistance excellent. I've posted questions and received replies soon after. Nobody has commented on my choice of mod. Everything has been as friendly and encouraging as I am used to on this excellent site.

Obviously there have been some issues between various people, but I'm not aware of them so make no comment. Seems that is more a point of contention between modders than anyone else. So long as they all continue to be friendly and offer advice/assistance in the usual fashion, I'm certainly not about to criticise - besides, ALL people have done enough to improve the sim that the odd spat is not going to diminish their achievements, nor my appreciation of them.

I am using NYGM 2.2. Why? Simple - I had to borrow someone's high speed internet to D/L it, and it was smaller than GW. No more than that. I think it is excellent, and I'm equally sure GW is excellent too (as many people have posted when I asked for advice on which mods to try and how to do so).

So, I humbly say "well done" to all and thank my fellow sub-simmers for their help and advice (not to mention some of the excellent funny threads to be found). Whoever has contributed the various pieces, you know who you are, and I am very much enjoying the fruits of your labours. In some ways I think it's best that I don't know the ins and outs of any disputes - to me you modders remain people with far greater knowledge of the sim than I'll ever have and I am always very appreciative that I benefit from that without doing anything other than saying a sincere "thanks!!".

Perhaps this says it best:

Ducimus · 10-05-06, 10:14 PM

I just wish the poltics would go away. Right now, looking at an experiment in progress by neal, i find myself wishing i never got invovled in the modding at all. I was much happier before.

Myxale · 10-06-06, 03:34 AM

Yeah i gotta agree with Terrapin!
Poor Falcon that became a mess!

But anyway...this forums is still top-notch! Sure some squarrel here and barrel there but all in all this board is the most civil i've been. I hope it stays this way. :hmm:

kiwi_2005 · 10-07-06, 08:32 AM

GW is great and So is NYGM they both good not one is better than the other. They're equal. This shouldn't be about whos mod is better it should be about improving SH3

Make Mods Not War.

And keep bringing them out. Your all doing a good job at it.

Safe-Keeper · 10-07-06, 10:16 PM

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GW is great and So is NYGM they both good not one is better than the other. They're equal.

I dare say it's more of a matter of taste. If you want to focus on realism, go for NYGM. If you want to focus on content and getting your socks blown off, go for GW. If you want historical events, try the War Ace campaign. And so on.

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If you don't like it, don't visit here or Ubi, and make your own mod.

How democratic of you.

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You’re missing the point. You guys are killing SH3. This is the last resource that is still actively doing anything with mods for SH3. This is it. It’s being ruined.

If it's one thing the modders are not doing, it's killing the game.

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Here's a perfect example of the way things used to be [...]

If this was one of the team members, it would have been kept "secret" until the next release, and nobody would have know how it was done.

And that's because the team members are competing, whereas U-Snafu is on his own.

WilhelmSchulz. · 10-07-06, 10:29 PM

Shoot This Thread In The Head Allready!!!!

10-05-06, 06:47 PM	#33
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	We've had out ups and downs but for the most part, people have tried to keep things professional. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

10-06-06, 03:34 AM	#36
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	Yeah i gotta agree with Terrapin! Poor Falcon that became a mess! But anyway...this forums is still top-notch! Sure some squarrel here and barrel there but all in all this board is the most civil i've been. I hope it stays this way. :hmm: __________________ SH3+GWX SH5+WoS Still Sailing....still Deep

10-07-06, 08:32 AM	#37
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	GW is great and So is NYGM they both good not one is better than the other. They're equal. This shouldn't be about whos mod is better it should be about improving SH3 Make Mods Not War. And keep bringing them out. Your all doing a good job at it. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others. Last edited by kiwi_2005; 10-07-06 at 08:43 AM.

10-07-06, 10:29 PM	#39
WilhelmSchulz. The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virgina Beach Posts: 1,301 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Shoot This Thread In The Head Allready!!!! __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink… others require our assistance."

10-05-06, 08:55 AM	#32
mkubani Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 256 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	As a moderator on some other flight simulator forum with 4 year experience there, all I can say is that this thread will lead to nothing constructive but may well start another flame war. I would have locked it after the first post. And as a 3rd party modeller myself for IL-2 Sturmovik/Pacific Fighters sim, I don't see any major issue with this modding community. Good luck and big thank you to all SH 3modders who are willing to sacrifice their spare time for others for free no matter if they are involved in small or large projects.

10-05-06, 10:09 PM	#34
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	From my point of view as a new user of mods (I've been at SubSim a while but only just got a rig able to run the game!) I've found the level of assistance excellent. I've posted questions and received replies soon after. Nobody has commented on my choice of mod. Everything has been as friendly and encouraging as I am used to on this excellent site. Obviously there have been some issues between various people, but I'm not aware of them so make no comment. Seems that is more a point of contention between modders than anyone else. So long as they all continue to be friendly and offer advice/assistance in the usual fashion, I'm certainly not about to criticise - besides, ALL people have done enough to improve the sim that the odd spat is not going to diminish their achievements, nor my appreciation of them. I am using NYGM 2.2. Why? Simple - I had to borrow someone's high speed internet to D/L it, and it was smaller than GW. No more than that. I think it is excellent, and I'm equally sure GW is excellent too (as many people have posted when I asked for advice on which mods to try and how to do so). So, I humbly say "well done" to all and thank my fellow sub-simmers for their help and advice (not to mention some of the excellent funny threads to be found). Whoever has contributed the various pieces, you know who you are, and I am very much enjoying the fruits of your labours. In some ways I think it's best that I don't know the ins and outs of any disputes - to me you modders remain people with far greater knowledge of the sim than I'll ever have and I am always very appreciative that I benefit from that without doing anything other than saying a sincere "thanks!!". Perhaps this says it best:

10-05-06, 10:14 PM	#35
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I just wish the poltics would go away. Right now, looking at an experiment in progress by neal, i find myself wishing i never got invovled in the modding at all. I was much happier before.