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Old 10-04-06, 07:47 AM   #1
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KNIFE WIELDING MAN ARRESTED AT BBC CENTRE

A man was intercepted by police today whilst trying to forcefully enter the BBC News center carrying a knife, he was believed to have been shouting something about "PC Madness". The mans identity is yet to be revealed by police.
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Old 10-04-06, 07:52 AM   #2
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Old 10-04-06, 08:14 AM   #3
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From my reading of the Daily Mail article it appears that the BBC were internally debating wheather any of it's newsreaders should have the right to wear religious symbols be it a crucifix a headscarf or any other religious or politcal symbol. I can't see any indication in the article that this is as a result of the BBC bowing down to Muslim anger or pressure. As the article highlights:

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The BBC was debating whether a female Muslim newsreader should be allowed to wear a headscarf while reading the news when the issue over Ms Bruce's cross was brought up.
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A source who attended the meeting said: "It was argued that BBC staff on screen should not wear anything which hints or directly points to a political or religious leaning and that the cross contravened this and should not be allowed."

Stephen Whittle, a former controller of editorial policy at the BBC said that the fact that Fiona Bruce had worn a cross while reading the news was a mistake.
"A newsreader should not let themselves get in the way of a story by wearing things that make the audience wonder about the newsreader's own position on a story," said Whittle.

It is understood, however, that Ms Bruce has not been asked to remove the necklace, and that the BBC does not have any official guidelines on the wearing of religious symbols.
Again, I can't see anything in the article to suggest that there has been a Muslim uproar or a raft of complaints into the BBC from British Muslims. And for the record I don't agree with the BBC if it did change it's policy to one where by it's newsreaders could not appear wearing an item of jewellery or clothing such as a crucifix or headscarfe. I would have hoped that BBC management had better and more important things to deal with at the Beeb.
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Old 10-04-06, 12:40 PM   #4
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From my reading of the Daily Mail article it appears that the BBC were internally debating wheather any of it's newsreaders should have the right to wear religious symbols be it a crucifix a headscarf or any other religious or politcal symbol. I can't see any indication in the article that this is as a result of the BBC bowing down to Muslim anger or pressure. As the article highlights:

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The BBC was debating whether a female Muslim newsreader should be allowed to wear a headscarf while reading the news when the issue over Ms Bruce's cross was brought up.
The news article continues with:


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A source who attended the meeting said: "It was argued that BBC staff on screen should not wear anything which hints or directly points to a political or religious leaning and that the cross contravened this and should not be allowed."

Stephen Whittle, a former controller of editorial policy at the BBC said that the fact that Fiona Bruce had worn a cross while reading the news was a mistake.
"A newsreader should not let themselves get in the way of a story by wearing things that make the audience wonder about the newsreader's own position on a story," said Whittle.

It is understood, however, that Ms Bruce has not been asked to remove the necklace, and that the BBC does not have any official guidelines on the wearing of religious symbols.
Again, I can't see anything in the article to suggest that there has been a Muslim uproar or a raft of complaints into the BBC from British Muslims. And for the record I don't agree with the BBC if it did change it's policy to one where by it's newsreaders could not appear wearing an item of jewellery or clothing such as a crucifix or headscarfe. I would have hoped that BBC management had better and more important things to deal with at the Beeb.
Agree, newsreader's should not show a political or religieus preference.
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Old 10-04-06, 01:01 PM   #5
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Old 10-04-06, 07:59 AM   #6
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I have red BBC world for years, as well as following their Tv programs until they had been kicked out of local cable network last year. Even me feels like one year or longer that there is a very bad political shifting taking plac einside the BBC. They have lost a lot of my former respect.

I also do not like their new way of doing nature docus, wether it be about the universe, or wild animals, aor whatever. In past decades, BBC docus were very competently done, sometimes spectucular. but nowadays music and narration are doing a message drill towards a directions of sensationalism and human thoughts of competion, war and fighting that has nothing to do anymore with objective description. In earlier years/deacdes their docus described and left it to the viewer to think about what he has seen. today the thinking is pushed and manipulated into a certain directon I find hard to catch in words. The audience is no longer expected to think itself. It is given a (wanted) explaantion, and should believe in that, and feel convinced, and remain shut up - alternative thinking not welcomed.

I wonder why Britain is fighting so bitterly against the EU - if in many details it already is overtaking the folly of Brussel'S pc ambitions and programs. The story Steed is quoting is simply this: totally unacceptable.

Yesterday I saw Geroge Lucas' "THX 1138" on TV, for the second time. The parallels to the present escaped my awareness when I have seen it first time, ten or twelve years bago. Yesterday they left me speechless. Very good movie. It was depressing.
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KNIFE WIELDING MAN ARRESTED AT BBC CENTRE

A man was intercepted by police today whilst trying to forcefully enter the BBC News center carrying a knife, he was believed to have been shouting something about "PC Madness". The mans identity is yet to be revealed by police.
Armer Irrer. He has my sympathy. who knows - 15 or 20 years more - and it will be me. Don't want to die in an old people'S home anyway.
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the BBC is a pathetic, openly anti-american, anti-israeli, pro-palestinian militant, pro-hezbollah pathetic organisation and Im ashamed to call it British! Hey us Brits have to pay £130 a year for this crap else we are taken to court! the corporation is a disgrace and id find porn channels more informative. :p
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Old 10-04-06, 08:30 AM   #10
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the trouble with getting rid of something you have to worry about what will replace it....if in the current pathetic climate of PC the BBC is having paranoid delusions regarding the necklaces of their presenters ....in that climate what do you suppose would be proposed as an alternative????

ultimately if you want to influence what is shown and how it is shown on telly the only thing that would work would be to switch it of entirely and throw it in a skip.....now then if half the country did that you see changes over night..telly is not just telly it's the principal tool of propoganda and population control available to the powers that be (or that don't be that is the question :rotfl: ).....

looking for big brother...look no further than the exact spot in your living room that Orwell predicted it would be...same format.. same message...same purpose:hmm:

sounds over the top.....but how do we know that isn't what were supposed to think when some-one suggest the same thing...and if we do think it's over the top....try to trace exactly why the thought appears over the top. and you might get onto the trail of bread crumbs..not that it matters...

if the BBC can depict the PC version of events and allow it to affect their choices regarding even minute unimportant details such as the jewelry worn by their presenters...then the public will accept it without question as correct..or enough of them to ensure it gets woven into the general publics way of looking at the world....and who elects the government??? the public does..
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Old 10-04-06, 09:50 AM   #11
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Hey us Brits have to pay £130 a year for this crap else we are taken to court!
Well I stopped last year and had three red letters and a bloke representing the BBC around knocking on my door and asking do I live here, which I answered sorry can not help you don't know the person your asking for. By the way never let them in without a warrant to inspect your home without a policeman with them.

So I'm waiting for my next letter or another visit, out of interest there is a guy in the U.K. who is doing battle with the BBC though the courts he believes the licence fee is a criminal act as it has not got the permission of the government.
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Hey us Brits have to pay £130 a year for this crap else we are taken to court!
Well I stopped last year and had three red letters and a bloke representing the BBC around knocking on my door and asking do I live here, which I answered sorry can not help you don't know the person your asking for. By the way never let them in without a warrant to inspect your home without a policeman with them.

So I'm waiting for my next letter or another visit, out of interest there is a guy in the U.K. who is doing battle with the BBC though the courts he believes the licence fee is a criminal act as it has not got the permission of the government.
He will lose, as will you. If the TV licence wasn't given to the BBC it would just go into the general government fund.

Channel 4's digital switch over is also being paid with by the license fee.. that can't be right - advertising AND your money!!!!

And as for the permission of the government - where did you get that from... its a criminal not civil matter if you chose to not pay your TV license, hence its written in law, hence the government quite clearly gave permission for it.

The BBC collects it directly now, whereas the Home Office used to, but the requirement to have one in law has not changed.
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And as for the permission of the government - where did you get that from...
From the gentlemen who are heard on the radio some months ago and he has a case against the BBC and good luck to him. As for me I have now got rid of my TV so bring it on BBC with your letters and callers I am the one who is laughing now. :p

PS: I can watch my mates TV and yes he has a licence.
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At times like this I like to play a game called "Imagine If..."

Imagine if a non-Muslim teacher yelled at a bunch of Islamic school kids that Mohamed was a pedophile. That Islam is responsible for just about all the terrorist attacks against the west. That Islam is not a part of the West’s traditions of freedom and liberty and in fact Islamic inspired laws are oppressive and offensive to our historical beliefs.

Does anyone believe that this non-Muslim teacher would have kept his or her job let alone be promoted some day?

Nope, me neither.
How true. In fact, that teacher would have probably lost their head of the incident.
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