Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

How do the Russkies think they're going to keep such an enormous hostile population subdued? Surely they're going to be daily faced with an insurgency the likes of which "nobody's ever seen before". They just won't have the manpower

Originally Posted by mapuc

You can start with reading about how Russia treated the civilians in the area who have been liberated. It's not exactly some fairytales for kids these stories.
Markus

From children abduction to this .. Putin has also said he will treat all ukrainian soldiers as traitors = shoot them.
We cannot let him win, and we cannot let Russia/Putin get away with this.

[Jimbuna]

EU leaders plan to call on Russia to demonstrate readiness to end war – media

At the summit on March 20-21, EU leaders plan to adopt a statement calling on Russia to demonstrate real political will to end the war in Ukraine.

This was reported by the Czech news agency ČTK, which has a draft of the summit's final document, Censor.NET reports.

The draft states that the EU will reaffirm its support for a "comprehensive, just and lasting peace based on the principles of the UN Charter and international law."

In addition, EU leaders will welcome the agreements between Ukraine and the United States reached during a meeting in Saudi Arabia on March 11, including a proposal for a ceasefire, humanitarian efforts, and intelligence sharing and security assistance.

"The European Council calls on Russia to demonstrate a genuine political will to end the war," the draft document says. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3541645

EU leaders plan to call on Russia to demonstrate readiness to end war – media

At the summit on March 20-21, EU leaders plan to adopt a statement calling on Russia to demonstrate real political will to end the war in Ukraine.

This was reported by the Czech news agency ČTK, which has a draft of the summit's final document, Censor.NET reports.

The draft states that the EU will reaffirm its support for a "comprehensive, just and lasting peace based on the principles of the UN Charter and international law."

In addition, EU leaders will welcome the agreements between Ukraine and the United States reached during a meeting in Saudi Arabia on March 11, including a proposal for a ceasefire, humanitarian efforts, and intelligence sharing and security assistance.

"The European Council calls on Russia to demonstrate a genuine political will to end the war," the draft document says. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3541645

Canadian PM Carney invites Zelenskyy to G7 Summit on June 15-17, 2025 in Alberta

President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy has received an official invitation to the Group of Seven (G7) summit to be held in Canada this June.

This was reported by a representative of the Canadian government to AFP, Censor.NET reports.

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney extended the invitation during a telephone conversation with Zelenskyy the day before.

"President Zelenskyy has been invited to the G7 meeting in Alberta in June," the Canadian government spokesperson said.

As noted, this year Canada holds the presidency of the Group of Seven and will host the summit in Kananaskis, Alberta, from June 15 to 17. The key topics of the meeting are expected to be global security, support for Ukraine and overcoming global economic challenges. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3541638

[Dargo]

[Jimbuna]

US has officially announced termination of its participation in International Center for Investigation of Russian Crimes against Ukraine - EU

The European Union has confirmed that the United States will withdraw from the international group investigating Russia's crimes in the war against Ukraine, the United States has officially notified Eurojust of its withdrawal.

According to Censor.NET, citing Yevropeiska Pravda, the relevant statement of Eurojust is cited by Sky News.

Thus, it is noted that the United States has officially announced the termination of its participation in the International Center for the Prosecution of Crimes of Aggression against Ukraine (ICPA).

"The ICPA, hosted by Eurojust, continues its work in support of national investigations of the crime of aggression related to the war in Ukraine," Eurojust added.

Earlier, the New York Times reported that the United States was withdrawing from the International Center for the Investigation of Russian Crimes against Ukraine. This is evidence that Trump refuses to bring Putin to justice. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3541650

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

US has officially announced termination of its participation in International Center for Investigation of Russian Crimes against Ukraine - EU

^ I have the feeling I am suddenly living in the evil branch of a parallel universe

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ I have the feeling I am suddenly living in the evil branch of a parallel universe

I doubt your alone

[Jimbuna]

61% of Americans support Ukraine in war and believe Trump sympathises with Russia - poll.

The majority of American voters say that in the Russian-Ukrainian war, their sympathies are more on the side of Ukraine than Russia. At the same time, almost half believe that President Donald Trump is sympathetic and supportive of Russia.

This is evidenced by a poll by NBC News, Censor.NET reports.

For example, an NBC News poll shows that 49% of registered voters believe that Trump sympathises with Russia in its war against Ukraine, while only 2% support Russia and 61% support Ukraine.

Another 35% said they did not sympathise with either side of the war, and 2% said they were not sure.

When asked which side they thought Trump's sympathies were on, 49% said Russia, 40% said Trump was not sympathetic to either side of the war, and 8% chose Ukraine. Another 3% said they were not sure.

Those whose personal sympathies are more closely tied to Ukraine are more likely to be democrats (88% of them chose Ukraine), independents (59%) and people with higher levels of education and income.

But majorities across several key demographic segments-gender, age, and race-supported Ukraine being invaded by Russia in 2022. Spanish-speaking voters were almost evenly split between Ukraine and "neither side."

The main split is along political lines: Republicans and conservative voters are more likely to say that their sympathies do not lie with either side of the country. Among Republicans, 57% say they do not support either party.

Regarding voters' assessment of Trump's position on Ukraine and Russia, a majority of Democrats, independents, women living in suburbs, and voters of all ages (except 50-64) believe that Trump is more sympathetic to Russia.

Among Republicans, 70% believe that Trump is not sympathetic to any country. Another 14% say Trump is more sympathetic to Russia, and 13% say he is more sympathetic to Ukraine.

Assessment of Zelensky and Putin
In addition, a total of 41 per cent of Americans said they had a positive attitude towards Ukraine, while 28 per cent said they had a negative attitude. By comparison, only 6% of respondents have a positive attitude towards Russia, while 68% have a negative attitude.

A similar trend is observed in attitudes towards the leaders of Ukraine and Russia: 46% of US citizens have a positive attitude towards Volodymyr Zelenskyy and 32% have a negative attitude, while 3% have a positive attitude towards Putin and 84% have a negative attitude.

While Democratic voters' views of Zelenskyy and Ukraine as a whole have remained similar over the past year and a half, Republicans' views have become less favourable. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3541643

Hungary blocks start of negotiations with Ukraine on EU accession - Sikorski

Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski said that Hungary is blocking the start of negotiations on Ukraine's membership in the EU.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to Onet.

"As the presidency, we feel a special responsibility for this (the start of negotiations on Ukraine's membership in the EU - Ed.) We, of course, would like to open one, possibly two negotiation clusters, but unfortunately, the decision is being blocked by our old friend and once ally, Hungary," he said.

Sikorski said that there was a lively discussion at the Council meeting that the decision to start negotiations should depend "not on bilateral issues, but on the fulfillment of criteria."

"I have to ritually appeal to the Polish opposition, which maintains close ideological contacts with the government and the party of Viktor Orban, and ask them to do something good for Poland and Europe, namely to convince their ideological brothers to unblock these issues," the Polish Foreign Minister emphasized. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3541648

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

US has officially announced termination of its participation in International Center for Investigation of Russian Crimes against Ukraine - EU

This is just wrong on so many levels. I just can't believe any of this.

[Raf1394]

I'm really curious what will happen after this war.
The war will end, its just a matter of time.

Will Putin stay calm and kinda isolate himself from world stage? Don't forget that Putin lost some credit and even had internal struggle in Russia, because of the war. (protests, Wagner mutiny ect...)


Or will Russia launch a new offensive in a few years. When things cool down.
focusing on other potential targets (who aren't part of NATO or the EU)
For example Moldavia. Transnistria region. There is still no real border between Russia and Moldavia. So i don't know.

Putin attacking Finland, or the Baltic states, like Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania is bull****. He would never attack a NATO or EU country directly.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

This is just wrong on so many levels. I just can't believe any of this.

You ande me both my friend, you and me both.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

This is just wrong on so many levels. I just can't believe any of this.

You wonder how many stabs Zelenskyy does have to endure in the back till that Orange turncoat quells his butthurt.

New Canadian prime minister invites Zelenskyy to attend G7 summit in June

Newly elected Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has invited President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to attend the Group of Seven (G7) summit in June, Le Journal de Quebec reported on March 17, citing a Canadian Foreign Ministry spokesperson. Canada, which holds the G7 presidency this year, will host the summit on June 15-17 in Kananaskis County, located in the western province of Alberta. Carney had a phone call with Zelenskyy on March 16 and invited him to the summit, according to the media outlet. https://kyivindependent.com/new-cana...ummit-in-june/

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

This is just wrong on so many levels. I just can't believe any of this.

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ I have the feeling I am suddenly living in the evil branch of a parallel universe

Originally Posted by Dargo

You wonder how many stabs Zelenskyy does have to endure in the back till that Orange turncoat quells his butthurt.

How many times do we have to tell you, before you get it into your thick skulls, We see this as a regional issue, and we really really don't want anything to do with it.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by MaDef

How many times do we have to tell you, before you get it into your thick skulls, We see this as a regional issue, and we really really don't want anything to do with it.

Then I have a very simple question:

Why did you take part in their training and in weapon and ammo supply-Which has been going on since 2014/15 ?

Edit
This part is taken from a longer Danish article-The first part is about Trump and Putins phone-meeting.

"US special envoy Steve Witkoff was asked on ABC whether the US would accept a peace deal that would allow Russia to keep occupied Ukrainian territory.

- We have to ask ourselves if that is in our national interest. Is that realistic? Should we expel every Russian from every piece of Ukrainian soil?

- We can talk about what is right and wrong, but we also have to talk about the facts."
End edit

Markus

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by MaDef

How many times do we have to tell you, before you get it into your thick skulls, We see this as a regional issue, and we really really don't want anything to do with it.

Try getting this through your thick Skull. If this has nothing to do with us ( the U.S ) they why are we involved in the first place ? Let Ukraine and it's allies decide for themselves what they want. We have no business deciding anything for Ukraine, least of all since we helped disarm them after the fall of the former Soviet Union. Look up the Budapest Memorandum.

Try this on for size. Do you really believe that Putin will stop at the Ukraine ? He wants to reclaim all of at least Eastern Europe. Sooner or later, the U.S will have to decide what side it is on.

The U.S in the early part of WW2 wrongly believed that Hitler was also a regional problem. As we all know now, it wasn't.

Those that refuse to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. You may as well reconcile yourself now to the fact that sooner or later, we the U.S will end up squaring off against Russia. It's a question of when and where.

[mapuc]

The rhetoric is getting a little harsh-Let us all take a deep breath and count to ten before posting an answer.

Just my 10 cent of opinion

Markus