Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Dargo]

Soldiers fighting in the region say a staged withdrawal has been under way for two weeks, and while many soldiers have faced a dangerous and challenging route to withdraw, they do not believe there is a mass encirclement of troops. “After seven months, we simply withdrew. There was no encirclement,”

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[mapuc]

Have they ever given it any thoughts on what will happen to the soldiers and the civilians in Ukraine, if Russia wins the war ?

There are people who says it's time to end the war, so thousands of life can be saved. However I don't think they have given it any thoughts about the aftermath what gonna happen with Ukraine and its citizens

This is why they are fighting for their survival.

Markus

[Skybird]

A devastating American betrayal. It's getting worse and worse.


[Frankfurter Rundschau] Europe is left out – is the US planning a comeback for Putin's pipeline?

The US is apparently interested in European gas and oil pipelines. Talks with Russia are said to be underway. A new dependency is looming.

The rapprochement between US President Donald Trump and Kremlin chief Vladimir Putin is just as unpredictable as Trump's apparent turning away from the West. Although Trump had announced his intention to ease sanctions against Russia, and deals on Arctic cooperation were also within the realm of possibility, the Trump administration then tightened important sanctions against Russia and also considered higher tariffs. At the same time, negotiations on energy infrastructure within Europe are said to be underway.

Since 2022, efforts have been underway throughout Europe to break away from Russian energy supplies. Dependent countries like Austria had also sought ways and means to, for example, cut off natural gas supplies and thus inflict maximum damage on the war chest of Kremlin dictator Vladimir Putin. However, now, almost two months after the inauguration of US President Donald Trump, negotiations between the US and Russia are said to be taking place over Europe's heads.

Research by CORRECTIV and Istories has revealed several ways in which the US and Russia could make Europe dependent on Russian energy again. For several months, emissaries from the US and Germany have reportedly been establishing contacts between Russia and the US. Documents from the insolvency proceedings of Nord Stream 2 AG in Switzerland indicate negotiations. The company is reportedly in "intensive contact with the financial investors" there, the company reportedly stated before a Swiss cantonal court.

According to CORRECTIV information, it is also possible that US companies could take over the German holdings in the Russian Rosneft Group. This would then give them a majority stake in the important Schwedt refinery, which has been supplying oil via the so-called Druzhba pipeline for many years. This route runs from Russia to Central Europe. Talks between US and Russian representatives are said to already be underway, and the Federal Chancellery and the Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy are also involved.

For Europe, these negotiations could prove to be a trap. The scenario: On the one hand, the US weakens Germany's auto industry through higher tariffs, while Russian oil and gas flow through US pipelines. "Two sides are clapping their hands: the Russians and the Americans. One sells raw materials, the other transports them. Both get paid for it, and the Europeans pay the price," CORRECTIV quoted a source close to the negotiations as saying. The decision could be made as early as this week.

However, some things remain unclear. Even if the US invests in the Nord Stream 2 and Druzhba pipelines, this will not initially change the EU's policy of disengagement from Russia. The countries would still not buy gas from Russia. The US would therefore have to exert pressure beforehand to ensure that Europe at least partially abandons its stance or eases sanctions.

However, the Druzhba pipeline has been experiencing problems for some time. Just on March 11, Hungarian Foreign Minister Péter Szijjártó announced that oil deliveries through the pipeline had been halted due to the war in Ukraine. A Ukrainian drone had hit parts of the pipeline on Russian territory. The pipeline is particularly important for Hungary because the country imports a large portion of its crude oil through it.

"Due to the drone attack, crude oil deliveries through the Druzhba oil pipeline have been suspended," the Kyiv Independent news portal quoted Szijjártó as saying. Hungary was one of the countries that received a reprieve from the EU to separate itself from Russian energy imports. However, the Hungarian government maintains a pro-Kremlin stance in many matters and has threatened blackmail and possible blockages in key EU votes in the past.

Szijjártó also called on Ukraine to refrain from attacks on energy infrastructure that Hungary supports. "Hungary's energy supply is a matter of sovereignty."

In 2022, the Druzhba pipeline was still delivering 750,000 to 800,000 barrels of crude oil per day. Its total capacity was said to be up to 1.4 million barrels per day. As recently as 2022, Euronews described it as the "core" of the Central European energy sector, which had built and sustained an entire ecosystem of diverse companies and thus also jobs. At the same time, however, the pipeline had made many countries dependent on Russian energy imports.

For several weeks, there have been increasing signs that such negotiations between the US and Russia could take place. The crucial Nord Stream 2 pipeline was also the subject of rumors. This pipeline was never certified by Germany, so it cannot deliver gas.
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As dirty a "deal" as it gets.

[mapuc]

No worry here, Denmark is self-sufficient with natural gas-After they have repaired and open the Thyra field. Denmark can now produce enough to themselves and even sell some of it.

Markus

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Skybird

A devastating American betrayal. It's getting worse and worse.

The US is apparently interested in European gas and oil pipelines. Talks with Russia are said to be underway. A new dependency is looming.

As dirty a "deal" as it gets.

First Ukraine, then all Europe.
In that light, Habeck's "green" plans to get independent from foreign blackmailing and unreliable energy suddenly does not look so bad.

[mapuc]

French President: Stop buying American weapons and start buying Europeans instead.

Markus

[Reece]

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Catfish

First Ukraine, then all Europe.
In that light, Habeck's "green" plans to get independent from foreign blackmailing and unreliable energy suddenly does not look so bad.

Except that he betrayed the Germans over the nuclear powerplants and forced the shutting down of conventional powerplants. The greens do not want a shift of energy supplies, but an artificial scarcity of energy. They ideologize that is "noblesse verte".


Note: it sonly the sutpoid germans. Everbyody els eis bulding or wnats to bui.,d powerplants, both nuclear and conventional, and everybody projects a steep rise, not a decline, of energy needs in the forseeable future.

[Skybird]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0q198zyppqo

Ukrainian soldiers fighting in Russia's Kursk region have described scenes "like a horror movie" as they retreated from the front lines.

The BBC has received extensive accounts from Ukrainian troops, who recount a "catastrophic" withdrawal in the face of heavy fire, and columns of military equipment destroyed and constant attacks from swarms of Russian drones.

The soldiers, who spoke over social media, were given aliases to protect their identity. Some gave accounts of a "collapse" as Ukraine lost Sudzha, the largest town it held.

[Eichhörnchen]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Have they ever given it any thoughts on what will happen to the soldiers and the civilians in Ukraine, if Russia wins the war ?

There are people who says it's time to end the war, so thousands of life can be saved. However I don't think they have given it any thoughts about the aftermath what gonna happen with Ukraine and its citizens

This is why they are fighting for their survival.

Markus

How do the Russkies think they're going to keep such an enormous hostile population subdued? Surely they're going to be daily faced with an insurgency the likes of which "nobody's ever seen before". They just won't have the manpower

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

How do the Russkies think they're going to keep such an enormous hostile population subdued? Surely they're going to be daily faced with an insurgency the likes of which "nobody's ever seen before". They just won't have the manpower

You can start with reading about how Russia treated the civilians in the area who have been liberated. It's not exactly some fairytales for kids these stories.

Markus

[Skybird]

Brute force works wonders. Ask Stalin.

[Jimbuna]

NATO fighters flew three times in week to intercept Russian planes over Baltic States

Last week, NATO fighter jets serving as the Alliance's air police in the Baltic States took to the air three times to detect and escort Russian aircraft that violated flight rules.

According to Censor.NET, citing LRT, this was stated by the Lithuanian Ministry of Defense.

It is noted that on March 10, Alliance fighters took to the air to identify an An-72 transport aircraft flying in international airspace.

On March 12, they escorted two Russian Su-27 fighters, two Tu-22 supersonic bombers, and one Il-20 reconnaissance aircraft.

On the same day, NATO aircraft flew to identify two Tu-22s and two Su-27s, and an Il-18 passenger jet was also identified.

The Russian planes were flying with their radar responders turned off, without flight plans, and often did not maintain radio communication with the Regional Air Traffic Control Center, the Lithuanian Defense Ministry said.

The Alliance's air policing mission in the Baltic States is carried out from Lithuania and Estonia. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3541664

Russians plan to take more than 4.5 thousand children for "rehabilitation" from occupied territories of Zaporizhzhia – NRC

Russia continues to massively abduct Ukrainian children under the guise of "rehabilitation," where they undergo propaganda, military training, and sometimes do not even return home.

This was reported by the National Resistance Center (NRC), Censor.NET reports.

"Collaborators are already announcing plans for the summer - more than 4,500 children are planned to be taken out of the maintenance area of Zaporizhzhia region alone," the statement said.

It is also noted that in 2024, the occupiers took about 40 thousand children to the so-called "re-education camps".

"This is a gross violation of international law and a direct attempt to destroy Ukrainian identity. The Center of National Resistance emphasizes that the occupiers use children in their assimilation policy - their return home should be a priority," the NRC added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3541642