Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Skybird]

How revealing and embarassing! This time Russia did Germany a service. Germany will not appreciate it, though.

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/..._x_tr_pto=wapp

Beware the German politicians who get compliments from Russia.

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine has agreed with US to supply new aid packages every two - three weeks, - Zelenskyy

Ukraine's agreement with the United States to supply new aid packages every two-three weeks is part of the "Victory Plan".

This was announced by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in an interview with a telethon, Censor.NET reports citing LigaBusinessInform.

Zelenskyy noted that he had agreed on this with President Joe Biden during a telephone conversation on October 16. As a result of the same call, a $425 million aid package was announced.

The Ukrainian leader noted that under the agreements, Ukraine will now receive aid packages "very quickly, every two - three weeks" to strengthen its army.

"I won't tell you the details, because I have no right to do so, but you will see them later. I think the packages will be large: from $500 million to $750 million. And I think it will be a fairly quick process," the president added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3515598

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

They must not do it from scratch, but can fall back on past designs that they just modify. A simple free falling nuclear bomb to be dropped form an airplane - or being transported in a suitcase... - can be done quite fast if you have weapon-ready plutonium. Difficult are ballistic missiles as carriers. I seem to recall Ukraine was a powerhouse of nuclear weapons production in the USSR. And nuclear reactors they have until today.
Another option is nuclear artillery grenades. But i have no idea whether these are simple or difficult to do. These existed during the cold war for sure.

The former Soviet Union had its nuclear program expanded to only four of its republics: Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia, and Ukraine. Chernobyl was one of the plants that could make nuclear material for nukes. Ukraine has actually an advanced nuclear engineering sector and a machinery sector from soviet times. Also, unlike other countries has experience with rocket manufacturing, so even the weapon carriers wouldn’t be a problem. The only problem could be, do they know how to detonate a nuclear bomb, every country has other ways for that do not know Ukraine has the Soviet way to start the nuclear explosion. I do not think Ukraine wants to make nuclear weapons, Zelenskyy used this to make clear that Ukraine needs to be in NATO.

[Dargo]

For everyone that believes that "Russia is doing great".

• The liquid reserves of Russian National Wealth Fund are exhausted by more than 60%.
• Russia has to sell oil for rupees to India. Rupees that it tries to exchange for goods but cannot in this extent.
• China does not want "dirty yuans" coming from Russia, and most banks stop transactions with Russia.
• North-Korea is supplying up to 70% of Russian shells and missiles.
• Economy is heading to stagflation with huge lack of manpower and just ca 2% unemployment rate.
• Russia is asking Kazakhstan to operate Russian domestic airlines, as there are no planes left.
• Russia is out of manpower that it has to go to North-Korea for canon fodder.

I could go on and on...

[mapuc]

It's not going great for the Ukrainian either.

They have their problems too.

One of them, which was told in the news some weeks ago, was the lack of fresh boots to the front. There was volunteers but this was not enough.

Ukraine does not have enough AA or AAA to cover most of the sky over Ukraine.

Ukraine have economical problems too-If it wasn't for the billions of Euros and Dollars being posted into the Ukrainian society-Its economy would collapse faster than we may think.

The only thing that keeps Ukraines head above the waterline is the money, ammo, weapon and first aid supply from the West.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

It's not going great for the Ukrainian either.

They have their problems too.

One of them, which was told in the news some weeks ago, was the lack of fresh boots to the front. There was volunteers but this was not enough.

Ukraine does not have enough AA or AAA to cover most of the sky over Ukraine.

Ukraine have economical problems too-If it wasn't for the billions of Euros and Dollars being posted into the Ukrainian society-Its economy would collapse faster than we may think.

The only thing that keeps Ukraines head above the waterline is the money, ammo, weapon and first aid supply from the West.

Markus

I still place my bet on Ukraine than gamble my money on a Russia, Iran, North Korea pariah bet. Failed to take Ukraine after its planned 3 day invasion, increased NATO borders because of their FAILED invasion and after nearly 3 years of fighting can’t even take the Donetsk Oblast. Meanwhile, begging pariah states Iran and North Korea for support.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

I still place my bet on Ukraine than gamble my money on a Russia, Iran, North Korea pariah bet.

So do I Dargo. I'm a strong supporter of Ukraine and I hope they will win this war.

My post was a reply to your comment about the problems Russia had.

Edit
We should threaten Russia with boots on the ground if NK or Iran send soldiers to fight in Ukraine.
End edit

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Dargo

For everyone that believes that "Russia is doing great".

• The liquid reserves of Russian National Wealth Fund are exhausted by more than 60%.
• Russia has to sell oil for rupees to India. Rupees that it tries to exchange for goods but cannot in this extent.
• China does not want "dirty yuans" coming from Russia, and most banks stop transactions with Russia.
• North-Korea is supplying up to 70% of Russian shells and missiles.
• Economy is heading to stagflation with huge lack of manpower and just ca 2% unemployment rate.
• Russia is asking Kazakhstan to operate Russian domestic airlines, as there are no planes left.
• Russia is out of manpower that it has to go to North-Korea for canon fodder.

I could go on and on...

Who said it does "great"? And if you meant me, I indicated many times: Ukraine so far scores no hits that influence the Russian handling of the war, the "successes" of Ukraine are claimed ot be big, but in fact are much less effective than the propaganda says, they do not influence Russia on the strategic level.


This is also what Colonel Reisner over and over reorterated, many many times. And what I meant when saying "one swallow does not make a summer". A single lonely high tehc strike with ATACMS occassionally - MEANS ALMOST NOTHUNG. You must do these sort of strikes many times a day, day for day, over many weeks. THEN it will make a difference. And the West makes sure that the Ukraine cannot do this.



And what I say since three years: that Russian economy will pay the price and that society will pay the price as well. Hekc , fo coruse ti will! I never denied that it will. But in such long term perspectives only that these backfiring consequences are unlikely to play a role within the timeframe of the active war, which means for Ukraine and its hopes to "win" this war these longterm effects are irrelevant. They do not fit into the timeframe of the war being fought NOW.



I agree, longterm outlook for society and economy in Russia is not good. But for the war this means NOTHING.



And those soldiers surviving it will form the basis of the future russian army: experienced, battle-hardened, brutalised, veterans. In a way, by basic mentality, the best warriors/destroyers you can wish for: brutal to the max, completely disinhibited, animalised, uncaring for their own life, willing to do every act of barbary and sadism imaginable. Definitely no wellmannered gentlemen in uniforms.

[mapuc]

As he says in the beginning of this video clip. Russia and its allied will do anything to win the war-While the West is doing nothing.



Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

As he says in the beginning of this video clip. Russia and its allied will do anything to win the war-While the West is doing nothing.

Markus

North Koreans must fight with the same soviet shyte equpment, doctrine that worked so swell for Russia since 3 years, and they have not the war experience, so I do not give them long certainly with winter coming at least no longer live than current Russian meat.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

North Koreans must fight with the same soviet shyte equpment, doctrine that worked so swell for Russia since 3 years, and they have not the war experience, so I do not give them long certainly with winter coming at least no longer live than current Russian meat.

Off course North Korea will be nothing than a new type of meat to the meatgrinder in Ukraine.

Markus

[Dargo]

[QUOTE=Skybird;2929733]Who said it does "great"? And if you meant me, I indicated many times: Ukraine so far scores no hits that influence the Russian handling of the war, the "successes" of Ukraine are claimed ot be big, but in fact are much less effective than the propaganda says, they do not influence Russia on the strategic level.


This is also what Colonel Reisner over and over reorterated, many many times. And what I meant when saying "one swallow does not make a summer". A single lonely high tehc strike with ATACMS occassionally - MEANS ALMOST NOTHUNG. You must do these sort of strikes many times a day, day for day, over many weeks. THEN it will make a difference. And the West makes sure that the Ukraine cannot do this.



And what I say since three years: that Russian economy will pay the price and that society will pay the price as well. Hekc , fo coruse ti will! I never denied that it will. But in such long term perspectives only that these backfiring consequences are unlikely to play a role with

[mapuc]

Markus

[Skybird]

In Colonel Reisner's words:

"Here is a spectacular exmaple: the attack on the Russian depot of Toropetz where it is believed that over 30,000 tons of ammunition and a total of 750,000 artillery shells were destroyed. Even though these events are spectacular, they still do not have a saturating effect. That means you would need a lot more of these attacks to actually produce measurable results on the front. "

Switch on subtitles and use English translation.



And also pay attention to the last minute, his remarks that really mark a very worrying situation in the West, at least in Europe, regarding the total stagnation in developing drones and especially drone defences. This is a threat that Russia now masters and projects - and that the European forces and I think regarding relevant quantities also the US forces are currently not capable to counter, or to compete with. Unfortunately I think this new weapon is deciding the forseeable future battles. We got a first taste of this during Ukraines first summer offensive when Western tanks and Leopards got immediately recognized when they moved out, and got mowed down like grass by artillery and drones, and were chased by these into the minefields that cost them fourther. I think we have dangerous illusions on that NATO ground forces are superior to Russian ground forces in case of a big war. I think the danger is much, much bigger. And many historians have pointed out that militaries are very vulnerable to one and the same mistake being done over and over again: to think that after they won a war, the next war would be fought with means and technologies of the previous one, turning it into a win as well. And how often was this wrong, at a terrible cost!

Wars of attrition primarily need big numbers, not necessarily technological superiority. The Western strategy here is absolutely and very, very dangerously wrong.

And nobody wants to hear this. Especially, but by far not only, in Germany.

Reisner remains to be the by far most competent, short, sharp and sober explainer of the war events in the German-tongued realm, and I also do not know anyone in English who does it as competently and sober like he does. Most of the others just dream, fanmtasize, do propaganda tp boost morale, and babble wildly (interestingly many of these by now have fallen silent: they obviously were wrong too often and either get no more invited, or do not trust their own assessments anymore). Respect and thanks, Colonel! You would have made a brilliant Vulcan.

[Dargo]

Public Perception of the War: Shifting from Repression to Awareness

Based on data from a multi-stage study, sociologist Elena Koneva traces the evolution of attitudes toward the war from Russia’s invasion in February 2022 through Ukraine’s raid into Kursk Region in August 2024.

The Russia-Ukraine war has turned into a prolonged calamity from which there seems to be no escape and no chance to effect its end. Last year was marked by a routinization and marginalization of the war. Awareness of the fighting in Ukraine was psychologically suppressed. This occurred for two reasons: one, people felt afraid and helpless, and, two, the war was happening “at a distance.” Everyday life stabilized, allowing people to not think or talk about the war all the time... https://russiapost.info/society/public_perception