Your Ideal Doomsday Survival Situation/Prepper Thread

[JNicholas90]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

You would also need a crew that can actually maintain a nuclear submarine as well and even if you did these complex vessels receive months of maintenance between patrols something that would not be possible in a total collapse.Sure in a time of duress a sub can stay out for longer but the ship itself and crew would wear out in a year or so.

Hiding seems like a good idea but it is no guarantee of safety things can go wrong that force you to move like a hostile group finding your hiding spot people are going to be really looking because their survival depends on finding what is hidden.Long term survival a person or group of people would have to be nomadic.

I get a kick out of the people on these dooms day shows who have all these plans about having their little fort that they plan to defend well guess what they will get to do that only thing is sooner of later they are going to get over run and die.Better to be mobile because as I said people will be looking for permanent locations because they know that what they need is in them.

Of course not matter what you do it is going to very hard it is going to be very harsh and possibly only a very small number would survive and it might be close like that for generations.Think of your worst experience and multiply it about 1 billion then you have an inkling of how hard making it in a total collapse post apocalyptic world will be.

we have all learned so much from the walking dead!

[ET2SN]

The one thing the "bunker" shows always gloss over is something really important.

Poop.

More specifically, what are you going to do with it? Its the one thing you will be making as long as you aren't starving.


Just food for thought.

[August]

Originally Posted by ET2SN

The one thing the "bunker" shows always gloss over is something really important.

Poop.

More specifically, what are you going to do with it? Its the one thing you will be making as long as you aren't starving.


Just food for thought.

Whatever you do just don't toss it out. Bags of fertilizer are going to be difficult to get.

[ET2SN]

Fertilizer= Poop + the right microbes + time.

Storing human waste in mason jars is probably not a good idea.

The sad truth to that equation is that time is something you don't have.

If you're in the same survival situation after three months, you'll want to be thinking of the least painful ways to check out.

This is reality. Not a movie, TV show, or paperback novel.

[August]

I guess it depends on the survival situation you're talking about. Prepping for natural disasters is not the same thing as trying to prepare for the fall of civilization. With natural disasters you are just trying to outlast the rescue/recovery clock. 30 days food and water would cover you in almost any natural disaster.

Surviving the fall of civilization is another thing altogether and even that covers a wide range of scenarios from a gradual societal collapse all the way to a nuclear war nightmare with every possible situation in between so learning how to turn ones poop into fertilizer might be a useful thing to know.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by ET2SN

If you're in the same survival situation after three months, you'll want to be thinking of the least painful ways to check out.

This is reality. Not a movie, TV show, or paperback novel.

Prepping by a strategy of stockpiling consummable reserves obviously has timely limits for thr duration of how long you can live by this. From some point on you need to have learned and be capable to live off the land instead.

However, lets be realistic and not assuming the zombie apocalypse. I described it before: my worst concern is a power blackout of continental proportions and several days duration, maybe 7-10 days power put. A huge multiple-days blackout imo is a very realistic possibility in Europe now. It then would take several days to switch all those many individual "power islands" back to "on" one by one, the regions each of them being supplied by one powerplant. And after that several weeks to desinfect the water pipes and taps, and months to empty and clean and refill the water processing plants and sewage processing bassins. And then the time it woud need to restablish logistics and supply chains, Corona and shipping taught us some lessons there, didn't it.

In the end, the duration you can surivive by reserves-prepping is limited, it gets you so and so far and not further, it depends on your monetarian and space options.

Everybody should think of realistic desaster scenarios, but skipping the absurd scifi stuff. And then he should do in preparation what he can do in this place and space he lives in, with this money he has, and at this time of his life. More he cannot do. Skipping just one long summer holiday travel, and use that money for prepping up instead. That is a very good way to get started and already accomplish a lot.



BTW, insurrances will be of no use to yiou if dedsaster like thsi strike. An insurrance does not help you to survive. And maybe even does not help you after you have successfully survived by your own means and doing. And if no desaster strikes you - the money that the insurrance costs you still is gone then. Just saying, some food for thought there.


Just doing nothing to get prepared within the range of one's own individual possibilities, and taking it for granted that others or the state will take it upon them to come to one's rescue - that phlegmatism is unforgivable, and selfish, and dumb. The state will be limited to set priorities for allocating its limited - and waning - ressources. Individual fates and rescue operations for each and every "citizen" will not be put high on the list. It cannot be afforded.