Aisles and courtyards in Lübeck

mapuc · 10-23-21, 10:10 AM

Wanted to know more about these type of houses.

Found a wiki page about them

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Since this building method has been used for thousands of years in many parts of the world, many styles of historic framing have developed. These styles are often categorized by the type of foundation, walls, how and where the beams intersect, the use of curved timbers, and the roof framing details.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_framing

Markus

Skybird · 10-23-21, 10:40 AM

One of the two tourist videos says it somewhere, the stones used for building the houses back in those days were not baked clay, but were handcrafted, means: precious and expensive. The more stones were used to build these houses, the wealthier the owner was: that is the message of such walls and houses.

The architecture, the socalled Hanseatic Backstein-Gotik, was copied by many other places around the Baltic and in other Hanse cities of which Lübeck was capital (not Hamburg!). Thats why many former Hanse cities have similar flair and looks and moods in their places , and if you go to Wismar slightly east of Lübeck, a city i also know well, that looks like a miniature copy of Lübeck, it looks the same, it feels the same, the atmopshere in there is the same, one could swear it even smells the same. Its just smaller everything. Its like that with many other Hanse cities, too. You see Lübeck until today in Hamburg, Bremen, Rostock... Lübeck was heart, centre and "Queen" of the Hanse.

The town's name btw has slavic and wagric roots, the name stems from the ancient word "Liubice", that means "the lovely", it then was combined with an ancient lower-German word, "beke", which means creek, refering probably to the two small rivers Trave and Wakenitz that completely surround the old town, making it essentially a complelte island. "Lübeck" means: the lovely one that is surrounded by two rivers.

This ^ island is what I mean when I talk of "Lübeck". The city obviously is much bigger nowadays, beyodn the island with the old town, but the tourist and visitor wants to focus on what is seen in that image, and the region towards Travemünde in the North.

The only place where i really would prefer to live over my current place.

Cybermat47 · 10-23-21, 11:13 AM

Beautiful looking place!

For future reference, the word 'aisle' is more commonly used to refer to the walkway between seats on a plane, shelves in a supermarket, etc.

Maybe 'alley' would be a better translation? Then again, you speak German and English while I only speak English

Skybird · 10-23-21, 11:26 AM

The word "Gang" in this context is tricky to translate, I found, i am not completely comfortable with any of the offered english translations in online dictionaries. Tunnel, corridor, passage, hallway: all that points at it, and yet does not precisely catch it.

But anyway...

Eichhörnchen · 06-18-22, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

The word "Gang" in this context is tricky to translate, I found, i am not completely comfortable with any of the offered english translations in online dictionaries. Tunnel, corridor, passage, hallway: all that points at it, and yet does not precisely catch it.

But anyway...

Perhaps 'alley' or 'alleyway'? Both meaning an urban pathway not accessible to anything larger than a bike

Anyway, a lovely wistful post, my friend - I really get where you're coming from and we'd love to stay over in such a place

Skybird · 06-18-22, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

Perhaps 'alley' or 'alleyway'? Both meaning an urban pathway not accessible to anything larger than a bike

Anyway, a lovely wistful post, my friend - I really get where you're coming from and we'd love to stay over in such a place

In 1997 and 1998 my parents and me visited Lübeck again for a week and for ten days, over Christmas, and every itme we staye dion one of these houses, many fo them are/were avialabole for tourism. Its hard to imagine how "gemütlich" these small houses then can be, with he weather outside grey and cold, and inside the materialization of "coziness". Also, the typical hanseatic atmosphere and interior, colours....

Oh man, is 25 years ago already...

Eichhörnchen · 06-19-22, 04:06 AM

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"The town's name btw has slavic and wagric roots, the name stems from the ancient word "Liubice", that means "the lovely", it then was combined with an ancient lower-German word, "beke", which means creek, refering probably to the two small rivers Trave and Wakenitz that completely surround the old town, making it essentially a complelte island. "Lübeck" means: the lovely one that is surrounded by two rivers"

I would think that they will one day be in much danger from flooding

10-23-21, 10:40 AM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,645 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	One of the two tourist videos says it somewhere, the stones used for building the houses back in those days were not baked clay, but were handcrafted, means: precious and expensive. The more stones were used to build these houses, the wealthier the owner was: that is the message of such walls and houses. The architecture, the socalled Hanseatic Backstein-Gotik, was copied by many other places around the Baltic and in other Hanse cities of which Lübeck was capital (not Hamburg!). Thats why many former Hanse cities have similar flair and looks and moods in their places , and if you go to Wismar slightly east of Lübeck, a city i also know well, that looks like a miniature copy of Lübeck, it looks the same, it feels the same, the atmopshere in there is the same, one could swear it even smells the same. Its just smaller everything. Its like that with many other Hanse cities, too. You see Lübeck until today in Hamburg, Bremen, Rostock... Lübeck was heart, centre and "Queen" of the Hanse. The town's name btw has slavic and wagric roots, the name stems from the ancient word "Liubice", that means "the lovely", it then was combined with an ancient lower-German word, "beke", which means creek, refering probably to the two small rivers Trave and Wakenitz that completely surround the old town, making it essentially a complelte island. "Lübeck" means: the lovely one that is surrounded by two rivers. This ^ island is what I mean when I talk of "Lübeck". The city obviously is much bigger nowadays, beyodn the island with the old town, but the tourist and visitor wants to focus on what is seen in that image, and the region towards Travemünde in the North. The only place where i really would prefer to live over my current place. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-23-21, 11:13 AM	#3
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	Beautiful looking place! For future reference, the word 'aisle' is more commonly used to refer to the walkway between seats on a plane, shelves in a supermarket, etc. Maybe 'alley' would be a better translation? Then again, you speak German and English while I only speak English __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

10-23-21, 11:26 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,645 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The word "Gang" in this context is tricky to translate, I found, i am not completely comfortable with any of the offered english translations in online dictionaries. Tunnel, corridor, passage, hallway: all that points at it, and yet does not precisely catch it. But anyway... __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-19-22, 04:06 AM	#7
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,400 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	*Quote:* "The town's name btw has slavic and wagric roots, the name stems from the ancient word "Liubice", that means "the lovely", it then was combined with an ancient lower-German word, "beke", which means creek, refering probably to the two small rivers Trave and Wakenitz that completely surround the old town, making it essentially a complelte island. "Lübeck" means: the lovely one that is surrounded by two rivers" I would think that they will one day be in much danger from flooding __________________