AUKUS

ET2SN · 09-16-21, 09:15 AM

Australia is also getting Tomahawks from the US?

Exocet25fr · 09-16-21, 09:58 AM

FUKUS is more appropriate, no?

I suggest the Green Peace flag for these subs !

And a name for the first one: Rainbow Warrior !

ET2SN · 09-16-21, 10:05 AM

The truth is that France lost this deal.

Call it whatever you want, just don't let the door hit you in the back side.

Jimbuna · 09-16-21, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exocet25fr

FUKUS is more appropriate, no?

I suggest the Green Peace flag for these subs !

And a name for the first one: Rainbow Warrior !

And that all ended well for French repotation didn't it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ET2SN

The truth is that France lost this deal.

Call it whatever you want, just don't let the door hit you in the back side.

Rgr that.

Jimbuna · 09-16-21, 10:31 AM

At some point someone must make a stand against the Chinese so what better time than now.

Exocet25fr · 09-16-21, 10:30 AM

Australia wins the deal !

''Welcome in the club of Nuclear Targets'' with Chinese or Russian missiles in a probable WW3 !

Never trust in a contract writed in english......

FRANCE not be concerned in a Pacific War

FoE ?: AUS, US and Perfide Albion
China and USSR aren't our ennemies, many French people prefers Poutine now !

biden = trump

The France must leave NATO, OMS etc....

mapuc · 09-16-21, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exocet25fr

Australia wins the deal !

''Welcome in the club of Nuclear Targets'' with Chinese or Russian missiles in a probable WW3 !

Never trust in a contract writed in english......

FRANCE not be concerned in a Pacific War

FoE ?: AUS, US and Perfide Albion
China and USSR aren't our ennemies, many French people prefers Poutine now !

biden = trump

The France must leave NATO, OMS etc....

Their new subs will have nuclear as propulsion, they will not be equip with nukes.

Furthermore in a nuclear exchange in a WWIII Australia will get their parts of nukes too whether they have nuclear propulset subs or not.

Markus

Exocet25fr · 09-16-21, 11:53 AM

Jimbuna · 09-16-21, 12:53 PM

^ Care to translate whatever is being said in the clip?

Platapus · 09-16-21, 05:56 PM

Very sad that France is unhappy.

Really really sad.

giggle

Skybird · 09-17-21, 01:26 AM

Fance hoped to have a say in keeping resistance to China low and thus making the EU, namely France and its European extension, an indispensable mediator. Change by trade, this German long lasting fallacy that has not worked with Russia and not with China so far. China is no friend. No partner. It does not meet Europe on same eye level but sees Europe as inferior.

China now wants to join a trade bloc created by Obama to counte rChinese influence in the region, which was abandoned by the Donald becasue the treaty was made by Obama. One of those shining exmaples of Donaldinarian genius.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58579832

Quote:

The pact that eventually became the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), was created by the US to counter China's influence.

However, former President Donald Trump pulled the US out of it in 2017.

Chinese commerce minister Wang Wentao said the world's second largest economy had submitted its application to join the free trade agreement in a letter to New Zealand's trade minister, Damien O'Connor.

New Zealand acts as the administrative centre for the pact.

Mr Wang and Mr O'Connor then held a telephone conference to discuss the next steps following China's application, the Chinese Ministry of Commerce said.

The original Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) was promoted by then-President Barack Obama as an economic bloc to challenge China's increasingly powerful position in the Asia Pacific.

After Mr Trump pulled the US out of the deal, Japan led negotiations to create what became the CPTPP.

If the local states there are smart, they reject the Chinese, else China will become inevitably the dominant actor in it, abusing it to promote its own powerpolitical goals. Or they fall for typical EU fallacy: chnage by trade, and blablabla and the end is clear: China dominates at will.

Jimbuna · 09-17-21, 06:09 AM

The US and UK are facing growing international criticism over a new security pact signed with Australia.

The deal - seen as an effort to counter China - will see the US and UK give Australia the technology to build nuclear-powered submarines.

But the move angered France, which said it had been "stabbed in the back", while China accused the three powers of having a "Cold War mentality".

And the pact has raised fears that it could provoke China into a war.

The alliance, known as Aukus, was announced by US President Joe Biden, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his Australian counterpart Scott Morrison on Wednesday.

While they did not mention China, Aukus is being widely viewed as an effort to counter Beijing's influence in the contested South China Sea.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-58592613

One country mentioned in the above has a short memory.

mapuc · 09-17-21, 04:27 PM

Well.....

Quote:

France recalls envoys in U.S, Australia over submarine deal - statement

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...nt-2021-09-17/

Markus

09-16-21, 09:58 AM	#2
Exocet25fr Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Paris/France Posts: 1,135 Downloads: 255 Uploads: 0	FUKUS is more appropriate, no? I suggest the Green Peace flag for these subs ! And a name for the first one: Rainbow Warrior ! __________________ \"Le Triomphant\" listens you !

09-16-21, 10:31 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,168 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	At some point someone must make a stand against the Chinese so what better time than now. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-16-21, 10:30 AM	#6
Exocet25fr Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Paris/France Posts: 1,135 Downloads: 255 Uploads: 0	Australia wins the deal ! ''Welcome in the club of Nuclear Targets'' with Chinese or Russian missiles in a probable WW3 ! Never trust in a contract writed in english...... FRANCE not be concerned in a Pacific War FoE ?: AUS, US and Perfide Albion China and USSR aren't our ennemies, many French people prefers Poutine now ! biden = trump The France must leave NATO, OMS etc.... __________________ \"Le Triomphant\" listens you !

09-16-21, 11:53 AM	#8
Exocet25fr Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Paris/France Posts: 1,135 Downloads: 255 Uploads: 0	__________________ \"Le Triomphant\" listens you !

09-16-21, 12:53 PM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,168 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^ Care to translate whatever is being said in the clip? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-16-21, 09:15 AM	#1
ET2SN Ocean Warrior Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 2,652 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Australia is also getting Tomahawks from the US?

09-16-21, 10:05 AM	#3
ET2SN Ocean Warrior Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 2,652 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	The truth is that France lost this deal. Call it whatever you want, just don't let the door hit you in the back side.

09-16-21, 05:56 PM	#10
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,408 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Very sad that France is unhappy. Really really sad. giggle __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-17-21, 06:09 AM	#12
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,168 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The US and UK are facing growing international criticism over a new security pact signed with Australia. The deal - seen as an effort to counter China - will see the US and UK give Australia the technology to build nuclear-powered submarines. But the move angered France, which said it had been "stabbed in the back", while China accused the three powers of having a "Cold War mentality". And the pact has raised fears that it could provoke China into a war. The alliance, known as Aukus, was announced by US President Joe Biden, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his Australian counterpart Scott Morrison on Wednesday. While they did not mention China, Aukus is being widely viewed as an effort to counter Beijing's influence in the contested South China Sea. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-58592613 One country mentioned in the above has a short memory. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!