North Korea unveils new submarine-launched missile - Page 2

Mr Quatro · 01-15-21, 08:58 PM

Sky! How would they know?

Just tell the crew it's a torpedo exercise ... point and shoot

Only the CO, XO and sonar know the truth of course you still need the POTUS/Joint Chief's of Staff/COMSUBPAC/Submarine Squadron 1/SUBRON 7 and a few helicopters to look for debris, other than that it would be a breeze.

Everyone shrugs

Cybermat47 · 01-15-21, 09:13 PM

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Take out boomers, okay.

That seems pretty ageist to me.

Skybird · 01-15-21, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Sky! How would they know?

Buddhists have no SSNs, and the Red Cross does not use them either.

Torvald Von Mansee · 01-15-21, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Bill Clinton decided a lot of things ... one was to lie to the US Senate that he did not have sex with that woman.

In a moral sense, it was none of their business.

Torvald Von Mansee · 01-15-21, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Sky! How would they know?

Just tell the crew it's a torpedo exercise ... point and shoot

Only the CO, XO and sonar know the truth of course you still need the POTUS/Joint Chief's of Staff/COMSUBPAC/Submarine Squadron 1/SUBRON 7 and a few helicopters to look for debris, other than that it would be a breeze.

Everyone shrugs

Hence why a NK should be sunk in deep water.

However, I wouldn't put it past Russia to go looking for its wreck to show to the North Koreans.

ikalugin · 01-16-21, 06:46 AM

Ironically the SSBs are not even there to deter or threaten US and allies, it is there to deter PRC as it is harder to PLA-N to operate in the Sea of Japan, in an extensive ASW operation precisely because of US and US allies there.

Nor is this technology development really new, they have been working on large diameter solid fuel rocket motors for a while now (and with good results), as this is the pathway for a reliable alert light ICBM as well (hence why Russia, China and US also went that way).

In terms of deterrence choices the combination is fairly standard - deterrence by punishment (fear inducement mostly here rather than cost inducement), deterrence by uncertainty/ambiguity. The later had also been used by US, the so called “madman doctrine” by Nixon.

Exocet25fr · 01-19-24, 12:50 PM

Jimbuna · 01-19-24, 01:46 PM

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Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sky! How would they know? Just tell the crew it's a torpedo exercise ... point and shoot Only the CO, XO and sonar know the truth of course you still need the POTUS/Joint Chief's of Staff/COMSUBPAC/Submarine Squadron 1/SUBRON 7 and a few helicopters to look for debris, other than that it would be a breeze. Everyone shrugs __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

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ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Ironically the SSBs are not even there to deter or threaten US and allies, it is there to deter PRC as it is harder to PLA-N to operate in the Sea of Japan, in an extensive ASW operation precisely because of US and US allies there. Nor is this technology development really new, they have been working on large diameter solid fuel rocket motors for a while now (and with good results), as this is the pathway for a reliable alert light ICBM as well (hence why Russia, China and US also went that way). In terms of deterrence choices the combination is fairly standard - deterrence by punishment (fear inducement mostly here rather than cost inducement), deterrence by uncertainty/ambiguity. The later had also been used by US, the so called “madman doctrine” by Nixon. __________________ Grumpy as always.

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