[REL] Dark Waters - Page 34

Texas Red · 06-03-20, 06:25 PM

I reinstalled your wonderful mod, Fifi, and now it works perfectly compared to my last issue. Sank the BB Rodney in my last session. I sank well over 50,000 tons and was awarded the Iron Cross 1st Class, apparently skipping over the Iron Cross Second Class.
Cannot wait to test your mod out further!

Well done, kaluen!

HK_01 · 06-04-20, 04:32 PM

Okay, so, um, weird bug. On my second patrol, the day/night-cycle got messed up. The sun sets in the morning and rises in the evening now, so nights are bright while days are dark. I restarted the patrol and the same thing happens. I'm still in the North Sea, so it's not a time zone thing. The cycle is correct upon starting the patrol, but once I load a save it gets messed up.

KaleunMarco · 06-04-20, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HK_01

Okay, so, um, weird bug. On my second patrol, the day/night-cycle got messed up. The sun sets in the morning and rises in the evening now, so nights are bright while days are dark. I restarted the patrol and the same thing happens. I'm still in the North Sea, so it's not a time zone thing. The cycle is correct upon starting the patrol, but once I load a save it gets messed up.

how high on the Time Compression (TC) scale do you go?
anything higher than 1024 will definitely mess with the solar day.
it is an unexpected feature of Ubi's design of SH4. what can i say?

Fifi · 06-05-20, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by the beast

I reinstalled your wonderful mod, Fifi, and now it works perfectly compared to my last issue. Sank the BB Rodney in my last session. I sank well over 50,000 tons and was awarded the Iron Cross 1st Class, apparently skipping over the Iron Cross Second Class.
Cannot wait to test your mod out further!

Well done, kaluen!

Glad you like it mate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by HK_01

Okay, so, um, weird bug. On my second patrol, the day/night-cycle got messed up. The sun sets in the morning and rises in the evening now, so nights are bright while days are dark. I restarted the patrol and the same thing happens. I'm still in the North Sea, so it's not a time zone thing. The cycle is correct upon starting the patrol, but once I load a save it gets messed up.

Marco is right with time compression.
TC has always been a problem in any silent hunter by the way.
Great maximum should be no more than X1024.
But have to say it’s first time i hear about days and night beeing reversed!

propbeanie · 06-05-20, 12:54 AM

Front Runner in the Pacific side of things was running into similar issues, but without the use of TC. He plays at 1x usually, while he piddles about the house, with the game sound turned up. He was noticing a "drift" in the day / night cycle. He discovered some issues with FotRSU for us along the way, but also discovered that the game is "tied" to the old 30fps paradigm of a DirectX v9 game, and runs closest to "real" time when that is achieved. However, it was discovered that the devs apparently made it to where they expected an "average" of about 128x worth of time compression in the game, so 1x is a little slow, while 2048 is way too fast. The more TC you use, the worse it gets. Plus, high TC will mess with the audio and video stream, and introduce errors into the Save info, compounding the day / night sequence. Throw in the usual user's penchant for shelling out to Windows with the game running, and next thing you know, the sun is rising when the moon should... check-out Base Time 2018

Levyathan89 · 06-05-20, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

how high on the Time Compression (TC) scale do you go?
anything higher than 1024 will definitely mess with the solar day.
it is an unexpected feature of Ubi's design of SH4. what can i say?

Really? Ok, that explains why at the east coast suddenly the sun was shining at midnight...I thought it was due to the different time zones and the clock showing base time instead of local time. Does it show local time btw?

HK_01 · 06-05-20, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

how high on the Time Compression (TC) scale do you go?
anything higher than 1024 will definitely mess with the solar day.
it is an unexpected feature of Ubi's design of SH4. what can i say?

I definitely went higher than that during my first patrol, but the day night cycle was still accurate upon ending the patrol and remains accurate in the second patrol until I load a save. So, in theory, if I went through the entire second patrol in one sitting it would presumably not be an issue, but I don't usually play that long uninterrupted. Is there any possibility that the game somehow applies either the time or the day/night cycle as it would be in Hawaii (or another place in the Pacific theater) upon loading a save? The time difference would roughly fit and knowing nothing about how the game actually works beneath the surface, that intuitively would make sense to me as to why it just suddenly inverts day and night.

Edit: Okay, nevermind. I turned on VSync (had it off because my 5700 XT didn't play nice with VSync in some titles) and the issue seems to be gone. Thanks for posting the link to that Base Time post, otherwise I probably wouldn't have considered that as a solution!

Edit 2: Never mind again. After a while of normal playing, the issue is back. It also wipes my map markings and plotted course btw. I guess maybe restarting the computer helps. I'll get back to you guys if I figure out more.

Edit 3: Restarts seem to do nothing. I am extremely confused now.

Edit 4: So restarting the game if the save breaks seems to fix it most of the time. Guess I can play like this.

WH4K · 06-05-20, 05:18 PM

I see that "plotted course cleared upon loading save" thing with DW sometimes too. Not sure what pattern there is, if any.

Levyathan89 · 06-06-20, 03:21 PM

I have a question regarding that crew berthing section in the boat. What is it for? Do have to place the topside crew in there while being submerged like in RFB?

Fifi · 06-06-20, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levyathan89

I have a question regarding that crew berthing section in the boat. What is it for? Do have to place the topside crew in there while being submerged like in RFB?

Absolutely

Just to avoid your deck crew to be hurt by depth charges.
(Because SH4 leave the crew on deck, even you don’t see them!

- known issue of SH4)

Levyathan89 · 06-07-20, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

Absolutely

Just to avoid your deck crew to be hurt by depth charges.
(Because SH4 leave the crew on deck, even you don’t see them!

- known issue of SH4)

But there's only 9 slots for 12 people

Guess I have to place the other three inside the conning tower. Poor them, it's probably not very cozy in there

Fifi · 06-07-20, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levyathan89

But there's only 9 slots for 12 people

Guess I have to place the other three inside the conning tower. Poor them, it's probably not very cozy in there

Yes they all fit inside using conning tower slots (they are made for it also)

In fact i only move them in case of depth charges. Most of time i leave them where they are.

lederhosen · 06-07-20, 07:12 AM

holy cow, I didn't know this !!

Levyathan89 · 06-07-20, 12:31 PM

Got my first convoy! 80% or so of it were neutrals, unfortunately. I hope it's not always like that^^

Also made a new video.

Fifi · 06-07-20, 12:48 PM

Great

There are always some neutrals among...sometimes less...

06-03-20, 06:25 PM	#496
Texas Red Fastest Gun Around Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Agua Fira, New Mexico Posts: 2,368 Downloads: 528 Uploads: 5	I reinstalled your wonderful mod, Fifi, and now it works perfectly compared to my last issue. Sank the BB Rodney in my last session. I sank well over 50,000 tons and was awarded the Iron Cross 1st Class, apparently skipping over the Iron Cross Second Class. Cannot wait to test your mod out further! Well done, kaluen! __________________ There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. — Colin Powell I'm not very active on the forums anymore. If you have a question, please DM me and I'll respond ASAP!

06-05-20, 12:54 AM	#500
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,100 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Front Runner in the Pacific side of things was running into similar issues, but without the use of TC. He plays at 1x usually, while he piddles about the house, with the game sound turned up. He was noticing a "drift" in the day / night cycle. He discovered some issues with FotRSU for us along the way, but also discovered that the game is "tied" to the old 30fps paradigm of a DirectX v9 game, and runs closest to "real" time when that is achieved. However, it was discovered that the devs apparently made it to where they expected an "average" of about 128x worth of time compression in the game, so 1x is a little slow, while 2048 is way too fast. The more TC you use, the worse it gets. Plus, high TC will mess with the audio and video stream, and introduce errors into the Save info, compounding the day / night sequence. Throw in the usual user's penchant for shelling out to Windows with the game running, and next thing you know, the sun is rising when the moon should... check-out Base Time 2018 __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

06-05-20, 05:18 PM	#503
WH4K Frogman Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 291 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	I see that "plotted course cleared upon loading save" thing with DW sometimes too. Not sure what pattern there is, if any. __________________ Windows 10 Pro (x64)

06-07-20, 07:12 AM	#508
lederhosen Planesman Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Trier, Germany Posts: 187 Downloads: 429 Uploads: 0	holy cow, I didn't know this !! __________________

06-07-20, 12:48 PM	#510
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 6,094 Downloads: 466 Uploads: 0	Great There are always some neutrals among...sometimes less... __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/rfw2h...N_V7.8.7z/file

06-04-20, 04:32 PM	#497
HK_01 Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 8 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Okay, so, um, weird bug. On my second patrol, the day/night-cycle got messed up. The sun sets in the morning and rises in the evening now, so nights are bright while days are dark. I restarted the patrol and the same thing happens. I'm still in the North Sea, so it's not a time zone thing. The cycle is correct upon starting the patrol, but once I load a save it gets messed up.

06-06-20, 03:21 PM	#504
Levyathan89 Soundman Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Dresden, Germany Posts: 147 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	I have a question regarding that crew berthing section in the boat. What is it for? Do have to place the topside crew in there while being submerged like in RFB?

06-07-20, 12:31 PM	#509
Levyathan89 Soundman Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Dresden, Germany Posts: 147 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Got my first convoy! 80% or so of it were neutrals, unfortunately. I hope it's not always like that^^ Also made a new video.