[REL] Dark Waters

KaleunMarco · 05-22-20, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifi

Yes done, but seems impossible to solve!
Get red warning: this application has been blocked...
Tried everything found on the web without success!
Disabled the UAC via control panel, plus via the registry —-> doesn’t work.
Disabled my firewall to no avail. Don’t have antivirus activated.
Even reinstalled SH4 from discs...no result, always the red panel!
Think I’ll give up

nooo. Never Surrender!
go to your SH4 icon on the desktop or the SH4.exe in the folder, whichever you use to launch SH4. r-click and go to the Compatibility Tab. you probably have it set to XP or Vista. either eliminate the value or change it to Win7. save and exit. re-launch SH4 using the same object.
good luck!

Fifi · 05-22-20, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

nooo. Never Surrender!
go to your SH4 icon on the desktop or the SH4.exe in the folder, whichever you use to launch SH4. r-click and go to the Compatibility Tab. you probably have it set to XP or Vista. either eliminate the value or change it to Win7. save and exit. re-launch SH4 using the same object.
good luck!

Tried every single compatibility to no avail, my friend.
Deactivated UAC etc...just nothing works!

It’s like my computer decided: no more SH4, you’ve done enough!

But...my old rig is still running ... for how long, i don’t know... and SH4 is fine there.

Texas Red · 05-22-20, 09:56 AM

Try overriding the DPI scaling. That is what fixed it for me. I also put the compatibility mode to Windows 7.
Assuming that you know how to override it.

KaleunMarco · 05-22-20, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifi

Tried every single compatibility to no avail, my friend.
Deactivated UAC etc...just nothing works!

that is intriguing.
just this week i encountered the same issue with an installation of SH4 that i have not used since i upgraded to Win10 last autumn.
i was stumped for three days.
then, on a whim, i changed the compatibility from XP to Win7 with DPI scaling and, voila, it worked.
that should not have made a difference but it's Microsoft, so there you go.

i will think on this issue some more.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Silent Hunter 4, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!

Fifi · 05-22-20, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

that is intriguing.
just this week i encountered the same issue with an installation of SH4 that i have not used since i upgraded to Win10 last autumn.
i was stumped for three days.
then, on a whim, i changed the compatibility from XP to Win7 with DPI scaling and, voila, it worked.
that should not have made a difference but it's Microsoft, so there you go.

i will think on this issue some more.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Silent Hunter 4, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!

Sorry mate but doesn’t work!
Win7 compatibility and DPI scaling —-> still the damn red window!

lederhosen · 05-22-20, 12:45 PM

hmmm, I can only sujest this...I'm new to W10 too

settings / update &security / windows security / virus & threat protection /

virus & threat protection settings / exclusions

I added Folder SH4, and sh4.exe, .... anything I thought that might stop sh4 from running.

can't say this will help but did this for some reason...cant remember why though ???

Mad Mardigan · 05-22-20, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifi

Sorry mate but doesn’t work!
Win7 compatibility and DPI scaling —-> still the damn red window!

To quote Tim Allen in the movie ''Galaxyquest"

Never give up, never surrender...

Hope you get a means to figure out what is going on.. to date, not having any issues running SH4.. and I have like 4 copies of it, 3 of which are modded out, with the 4th waiting for the IJN mega mod that as far as I know of, is still being worked on for release, last I saw on it.

I think I saw something of a Brit mega mod add on for SH4, if I recall that right.

Just out of curiosity... what is your base or means of installing SH4 from... Steam, Ubisoft-screw, disk...???

With that info, might come a means of figuring out why you're running into issues now with reinstalling it.. couldn't hurt, yanno.

Fifi · 05-22-20, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

To quote Tim Allen in the movie ''Galaxyquest"

Never give up, never surrender...

Hope you get a means to figure out what is going on.. to date, not having any issues running SH4.. and I have like 4 copies of it, 3 of which are modded out, with the 4th waiting for the IJN mega mod that as far as I know of, is still being worked on for release, last I saw on it.

I think I saw something of a Brit mega mod add on for SH4, if I recall that right.

Just out of curiosity... what is your base or means of installing SH4 from... Steam, Ubisoft-screw, disk...???

With that info, might come a means of figuring out why you're running into issues now with reinstalling it.. couldn't hurt, yanno.

Disc install.
Even fresh copy from old computer (that works) doesn’t start.
Never seen that ever. Had plenty SH4 copy on old computer without any troubles.
That is coming from new windows 10 on latest rig.

Mad Mardigan · 05-22-20, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifi

Disc install.
Even fresh copy from old computer (that works) doesn’t start.
Never seen that ever. Had plenty SH4 copy on old computer without any troubles.
That is coming from new windows 10 on latest rig.

Ok, with a disk install, the 1st thing that would come to mind is... Did you ensure in uninstalling SH4, that by chance.. after making sure to have gotten rid of the save game folder for it, that you ran CCleaner.? (you did run CCleaner, or something similar... yes...?)

Did you avoid the install, installing into the dreaded \program files - \program files (x86) area.?

If yes, then the only other thing that would come to mind, is to go over & remember if you followed the most notable important aspects of the install process... did you set SH4 up for running in compatible mode, of Win 7/8/8.1 (depending on the set up you have with Windows on that old rig.. did you set the SH4.exe up for being ran as admin... after all was set up with mods, did you then add in pointing out to L.A.A (if you use it & as I understand it, it should be, again to the best of My knowledge...) where the SH4 & the SH4.exe was installed/located.?

I know Fifi, that as what I know of you, thus far.. is that you are pretty much what I like to refer as... old hat to all this... but I ask for your forbearance on My asking these of you.. for often times the problem might well be sitting right there dead in front of us, in plain sight & give us a Homer Simpson ''D'oh.!'' moment...

I know 1st hand, numerous times of having them ''D'oh'' moments *chuckles*... so I trust you'll bear with My asking you these questions... it never hurts to look at everything from a critical, clinical, analytical & questioning line of process, if you will... as the venerable Detective, Sherlock Holmes was often quoted as saying, as it were that is.. when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth or in this case, the solution.

This adage, holds very much true.

Edit add to the post:

Crap... 1 thing that came to mind.. something I recall reading or seeing, where.. don't recall that but.. importantly.. seem to recall some having issues with games, running them after doing a disk install.. and if they did NOT have the disk in the CD/DVD tray.. then the game would NOT run fer chit... don't know if that would be applicable here or NOT.. but, as I said, it is something that came to mind, after I posted this...

igiu83 · 05-25-20, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifi

Sorry mate but doesn’t work!
Win7 compatibility and DPI scaling —-> still the damn red window!

Hi guys!
Just to say that i have resolved that big red no go creating a batch file. Just create an empty text file e rename its extension to .bat. inside simply write the address of SH4 exe as c:\....... only thing to remember is to start this batch file as an administrator.
That's it. Zero problem and no more UAC.

PS: i'm running on windows 10 64 bit.

Fifi · 05-25-20, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by igiu83

Hi guys!
Just to say that i have resolved that big red no go creating a batch file. Just create an empty text file e rename its extension to .bat. inside simply write the address of SH4 exe as c:\....... only thing to remember is to start this batch file as an administrator.
That's it. Zero problem and no more UAC.

PS: i'm running on windows 10 64 bit.

Hi mate,
Could you explain in detail, because i don’t really understand what you have done

igiu83 · 05-25-20, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifi

Hi mate,
Could you explain in detail, because i don’t really understand what you have done

Here it is. I've managed to bypass this UAC problem (application doesn't start with a red warning about exe has been blocked).

I've created a batch file on my desktop. A batch file has a .bat extension and it is used to make some actions on PC. It's a DOS command prompt, but in a file version.

So, i've made it this way. Right click on desktop and create a new text file. It will have .txt extension. Doesn't matter. Rename it as you want and make sure to replace .txt extension with a .bat one.
So it will be "test.bat", as an example.

Then open it, and write DOS command to start SH4 exe file. In my PC, the command is "c:\SH4\sh4.exe".
Save and exit.

Now launch the game with this file just created. The important thing is to start it as an Administrator.

That's it!!!

05-22-20, 09:56 AM	#3
Texas Red Fastest Gun Around Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Agua Fira, New Mexico Posts: 2,368 Downloads: 528 Uploads: 5	Try overriding the DPI scaling. That is what fixed it for me. I also put the compatibility mode to Windows 7. Assuming that you know how to override it. __________________ There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. — Colin Powell I'm not very active on the forums anymore. If you have a question, please DM me and I'll respond ASAP!

05-22-20, 12:45 PM	#6
lederhosen Planesman Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Trier, Germany Posts: 187 Downloads: 429 Uploads: 0	hmmm, I can only sujest this...I'm new to W10 too settings / update &security / windows security / virus & threat protection / virus & threat protection settings / exclusions I added Folder SH4, and sh4.exe, .... anything I thought that might stop sh4 from running. can't say this will help but did this for some reason...cant remember why though ??? __________________