[REL] Dark Waters

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Tried every single compatibility to no avail, my friend.
Deactivated UAC etc...just nothing works!

that is intriguing.
just this week i encountered the same issue with an installation of SH4 that i have not used since i upgraded to Win10 last autumn.
i was stumped for three days.
then, on a whim, i changed the compatibility from XP to Win7 with DPI scaling and, voila, it worked.
that should not have made a difference but it's Microsoft, so there you go.
i will think on this issue some more.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Silent Hunter 4, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

that is intriguing.
just this week i encountered the same issue with an installation of SH4 that i have not used since i upgraded to Win10 last autumn.
i was stumped for three days.
then, on a whim, i changed the compatibility from XP to Win7 with DPI scaling and, voila, it worked.
that should not have made a difference but it's Microsoft, so there you go.
i will think on this issue some more.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Silent Hunter 4, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!

Sorry mate but doesn’t work!
Win7 compatibility and DPI scaling —-> still the damn red window!

[lederhosen]

hmmm, I can only sujest this...I'm new to W10 too


settings / update &security / windows security / virus & threat protection /



virus & threat protection settings / exclusions


I added Folder SH4, and sh4.exe, .... anything I thought that might stop sh4 from running.


can't say this will help but did this for some reason...cant remember why though ???

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Sorry mate but doesn’t work!
Win7 compatibility and DPI scaling —-> still the damn red window!

To quote Tim Allen in the movie ''Galaxyquest"

Never give up, never surrender...

Hope you get a means to figure out what is going on.. to date, not having any issues running SH4.. and I have like 4 copies of it, 3 of which are modded out, with the 4th waiting for the IJN mega mod that as far as I know of, is still being worked on for release, last I saw on it.

I think I saw something of a Brit mega mod add on for SH4, if I recall that right.

Just out of curiosity... what is your base or means of installing SH4 from... Steam, Ubisoft-screw, disk...???

With that info, might come a means of figuring out why you're running into issues now with reinstalling it.. couldn't hurt, yanno.

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

To quote Tim Allen in the movie ''Galaxyquest"

Never give up, never surrender...

Hope you get a means to figure out what is going on.. to date, not having any issues running SH4.. and I have like 4 copies of it, 3 of which are modded out, with the 4th waiting for the IJN mega mod that as far as I know of, is still being worked on for release, last I saw on it.

I think I saw something of a Brit mega mod add on for SH4, if I recall that right.

Just out of curiosity... what is your base or means of installing SH4 from... Steam, Ubisoft-screw, disk...???

With that info, might come a means of figuring out why you're running into issues now with reinstalling it.. couldn't hurt, yanno.

Disc install.
Even fresh copy from old computer (that works) doesn’t start.
Never seen that ever. Had plenty SH4 copy on old computer without any troubles.
That is coming from new windows 10 on latest rig.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Disc install.
Even fresh copy from old computer (that works) doesn’t start.
Never seen that ever. Had plenty SH4 copy on old computer without any troubles.
That is coming from new windows 10 on latest rig.

Ok, with a disk install, the 1st thing that would come to mind is... Did you ensure in uninstalling SH4, that by chance.. after making sure to have gotten rid of the save game folder for it, that you ran CCleaner.? (you did run CCleaner, or something similar... yes...?)

Did you avoid the install, installing into the dreaded \program files - \program files (x86) area.?

If yes, then the only other thing that would come to mind, is to go over & remember if you followed the most notable important aspects of the install process... did you set SH4 up for running in compatible mode, of Win 7/8/8.1 (depending on the set up you have with Windows on that old rig.. did you set the SH4.exe up for being ran as admin... after all was set up with mods, did you then add in pointing out to L.A.A (if you use it & as I understand it, it should be, again to the best of My knowledge...) where the SH4 & the SH4.exe was installed/located.?

I know Fifi, that as what I know of you, thus far.. is that you are pretty much what I like to refer as... old hat to all this... but I ask for your forbearance on My asking these of you.. for often times the problem might well be sitting right there dead in front of us, in plain sight & give us a Homer Simpson ''D'oh.!'' moment...

I know 1st hand, numerous times of having them ''D'oh'' moments *chuckles*... so I trust you'll bear with My asking you these questions... it never hurts to look at everything from a critical, clinical, analytical & questioning line of process, if you will... as the venerable Detective, Sherlock Holmes was often quoted as saying, as it were that is.. when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth or in this case, the solution.

This adage, holds very much true.

Edit add to the post:

Crap... 1 thing that came to mind.. something I recall reading or seeing, where.. don't recall that but.. importantly.. seem to recall some having issues with games, running them after doing a disk install.. and if they did NOT have the disk in the CD/DVD tray.. then the game would NOT run fer chit... don't know if that would be applicable here or NOT.. but, as I said, it is something that came to mind, after I posted this...

[Fifi]

Thank you Mad Mardigan, but yes i tried all you said.
Didn’t had to use Ccleaner on this windows because it’s brand new and SH4 never been installed.
About the CD to run it, i never had to keep it to run the game. I think my CD version is already star force free...anyway, if CD was required, it would be not my red window saying the application has been blocked, would be the window saying please insert the CD!
Well, I’m now guessing it’s coming from my own windows 10 version and/or from an damn update...but wich one? Hard to say.
Again, if i want to run Dark Water, i still have my Noisy old rig...maybe one day I’ll find out the issue by some chance!

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Thank you Mad Mardigan, but yes i tried all you said.
Didn’t had to use Ccleaner on this windows because it’s brand new and SH4 never been installed.
About the CD to run it, i never had to keep it to run the game. I think my CD version is already star force free...anyway, if CD was required, it would be not my red window saying the application has been blocked, would be the window saying please insert the CD!
Well, I’m now guessing it’s coming from my own windows 10 version and/or from an damn update...but wich one? Hard to say.
Again, if i want to run Dark Water, i still have my Noisy old rig...maybe one day I’ll find out the issue by some chance!

Dang, welp.. as they say, back to the ol' drawing board..

What Win 10 version & build is in the computer that you're running into troubles running SH4 on, by chance.?

Mine is Win 10 Pro, build 1909 & thus far, it's as up to date as is possible... minus those pesky optional update offerings.. I avoid them, like the plague..

I do have the official officiated updates on a 2 week lock-down just to have time to take a wait & see if there is any bugs & such that crop up, not to mention if issues are found to see what Microscrew.. erhm, sorrry.. Microsoft's response is to them.

I may, at a later time, make that lock-down & bump it up to a 4 week or monthly hold off, but so far 2 weeks has worked out thus far.

Ok, if you haven't tried this already, see of doing a dump, clean, restart & do a reinstall... this time with a twist.

The twist... unplug access to the interwebz, & shut off the anti virus protection grid... before doing the reinstall... sounds crazy, I know.. but as with the issue with trying to run a game & not being able to without having said disk in the tray (which has already been eliminated as a possible cause) I seem to recall others having problems caused by their anti virus protection.

For some dumb stupid reason, the virus killer program/s, would mistakenly tag some part of a disk install, as a potential virus & trash some parts of the install into quarantine

I know that some , even when told to 'shut down' as it were, to avoid it causing issues, also read somewhere, just not the when & where of it, would often keep running in the background & scream home to mama, as it were aka the maker of said virus protection programming... & mama re-turning the virus protection back on & NOT inform you of that occurring.

Hence, why I mentioned of making sure to shut that down & disconnect access to the web, before doing the reinstall attempt, to rule this out as a possible cause of the works getting bollixed.

Outside of this, if this idea doesn't do the trick, after that then I am going to be sitting here, really scratching My head, confused as to what could be causing all this problems with getting SH4 after install to run as it should... and will be out of ideas, for possible solutions.

[igiu83]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Sorry mate but doesn’t work!
Win7 compatibility and DPI scaling —-> still the damn red window!

Hi guys!
Just to say that i have resolved that big red no go creating a batch file. Just create an empty text file e rename its extension to .bat. inside simply write the address of SH4 exe as c:\....... only thing to remember is to start this batch file as an administrator.
That's it. Zero problem and no more UAC.

PS: i'm running on windows 10 64 bit.

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by igiu83

Hi guys!
Just to say that i have resolved that big red no go creating a batch file. Just create an empty text file e rename its extension to .bat. inside simply write the address of SH4 exe as c:\....... only thing to remember is to start this batch file as an administrator.
That's it. Zero problem and no more UAC.

PS: i'm running on windows 10 64 bit.

Hi mate,
Could you explain in detail, because i don’t really understand what you have done

[igiu83]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Hi mate,
Could you explain in detail, because i don’t really understand what you have done

Here it is. I've managed to bypass this UAC problem (application doesn't start with a red warning about exe has been blocked).

I've created a batch file on my desktop. A batch file has a .bat extension and it is used to make some actions on PC. It's a DOS command prompt, but in a file version.

So, i've made it this way. Right click on desktop and create a new text file. It will have .txt extension. Doesn't matter. Rename it as you want and make sure to replace .txt extension with a .bat one.
So it will be "test.bat", as an example.

Then open it, and write DOS command to start SH4 exe file. In my PC, the command is "c:\SH4\sh4.exe".
Save and exit.

Now launch the game with this file just created. The important thing is to start it as an Administrator.


That's it!!!

[Fifi]

Thanks! I’ll try later on and see what’s happening. I’ll report back.

[Randomizer]

Originally Posted by mazzi

What specific screen resolution?

top left:

[G29 I1]
;Zone= 0 768 1024 768 2 1 0x0 0.5 -0.5 0x29000000 -0.5 0.5 -550 -800
Zone= 0 768 1024 768 2 1 0x0 0.5 -0.5 0x29000000 -0.5 0.5 0 0

[G29 I2]
;Zone= 412 768 234 225 0 1 0x29000000 1.23 0 0x29020000 -1 0 -300 0
Zone= 412 768 234 225 1 1 0x29000000 0 0 0x29020000 0.1 -0.1 0 0

@Mazzi
These edits did the trick, thank you very much.

-C

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by igiu83

Here it is. I've managed to bypass this UAC problem (application doesn't start with a red warning about exe has been blocked).

I've created a batch file on my desktop. A batch file has a .bat extension and it is used to make some actions on PC. It's a DOS command prompt, but in a file version.

So, i've made it this way. Right click on desktop and create a new text file. It will have .txt extension. Doesn't matter. Rename it as you want and make sure to replace .txt extension with a .bat one.
So it will be "test.bat", as an example.

Then open it, and write DOS command to start SH4 exe file. In my PC, the command is "c:\SH4\sh4.exe".
Save and exit.

Now launch the game with this file just created. The important thing is to start it as an Administrator.


That's it!!!

Didn’t work either...still red windows this application has been blocked...
I think my computer is purely crap.
Can’t understand why it is running SH3 very fine but SH4! Both from disc...

[WH4K]

What is going on with the very odd ship names?


For example, "KS-M-KS-M-F-M-KS-M Merchant".


It's both tagged that way in the periscope/UBT view, and shown as such in the recognition manual.


Some other merchants have weird names like this too, for example tankers (similar alphabet soup).



Been digging through all the files that came with the mod, but I haven't found this explained anywhere (yet).