A Fix for Windows 10 Blocking SH4 Executable

ironkross · 03-12-20, 06:21 PM

I am running SH4 right now from the Steam install, in the default Steam folder.
I have split my D drive and made a new E drive and put the new Steam library there. However, when I started reading from the link above, about moving the existing Steam folder into the new drive, that's where I get hung up. Step 3. says " Delete all of the files and folders except the SteamApps & Userdata folders and Steam.exe." This seems too extreme! There are a lot of files there. 98,498 Files, 9,123 Folders. I am very hesitant to delete everything except SteamApps and Userdata and the exe.
This is where I am, and as I said the game runs ok in the default folder.
So... how important is it to run in another drive/folder structure?

propbeanie · 03-12-20, 09:50 PM

It's not important at all if you don't use mods. The alternative method is to install the game to the new E: drive Library folder, but you might have to un-install it first. No matter which way you go, it does take a while to accomplish... that is just the nature of Steam. Those files that you delete in the "manual" method of moving everything, are re-created after the move, so you do need a lot of hard drive space. Steam stays in the Program Files folder (for the most part), but the game and necessary Steam files for the licensing are in the new Library folder.

ironkross · 03-12-20, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

It's not important at all if you don't use mods. The alternative method is to install the game to the new E: drive Library folder, but you might have to un-install it first. No matter which way you go, it does take a while to accomplish... that is just the nature of Steam. Those files that you delete in the "manual" method of moving everything, are re-created after the move, so you do need a lot of hard drive space. Steam stays in the Program Files folder (for the most part), but the game and necessary Steam files for the licensing are in the new Library folder.

Thanks for the info and clarification PB.

I may leave as is for awhile. I just spent 2 days just making SH4 work again. That was enough tinkering for this week!

I'll move after my current mission is over.

Sosondowah · 04-05-21, 03:20 PM

Starting today, I am encountering the same issue (see attachment). I wasn't even able to take a screenshot, I had to do a picture with my phone.

When I try to start the game normally, nothing happens and this message appears when I try to run the program as an administrator. I have the 1.5 version of the game, the "old" version, not Steam.

I've tried to take privileges, to drop security and so on, nothing helps. Did anyone found a solution for this? I mean a real solution, not a workaround.

https://ibb.co/XVsrdLP

It's funny, I am supposed to be the administrator of my PC, good or bad, but it seems there is a some big brother in a higher plane watching over my safety.

propbeanie · 04-05-21, 05:24 PM

Windows 10 and the 'modern' computing world demand a bit more of a person seeking to run 'legacy' software these days...

Read through this, and change the Properties setting of the SH4.exe file:
SH4 won't start after recent Win10 update

Sosondowah · 04-06-21, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Windows 10 and the 'modern' computing world demand a bit more of a person seeking to run 'legacy' software these days...

Read through this, and change the Properties setting of the SH4.exe file:
SH4 won't start after recent Win10 update

Thank you, but it doesn't work, I just did that.

3catcircus · 04-06-21, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosondowah

Thank you, but it doesn't work, I just did that.

I'll ask again. After you logged in as an admin? As in did you open up the accounts page and see that there account actually has admin rights. There have been instances where Win10 updates have removed those rights.

propbeanie · 04-11-21, 09:39 PM

From Page 1:

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Windows 10 and the 'modern' computing world demand a bit more of a person seeking to run 'legacy' software these days...

Read through this, and change the Properties setting of the SH4.exe file:
SH4 won't start after recent Win10 update

What is "unsafe" about changing the High DPI behavior of an app? or setting its compatibility to something other than Win10? The game is put in a "sandbox" inside of Windows, even on the Home edition (one address space), but especially on a Pro version (multiple address spaces available). Windows 10 wants to "help" you with the "scaling" of all apps, but SH4 has no clue how to allow Windows to do that. SH4 can't even share the audio stream, much less the video stream. It is an old, "legacy", DirectX v9.0c game... kind of like some of the "legacy" members around - o-l-d... present company included...

Sosondowah · 04-12-21, 12:01 AM

propbeanie, just in case your above message was meant to be directed to me: it's not safe for your computer to have UAC disabled, which is USER ACCOUNT CONTROL.

In my particular situation, that is the first and mandatory required step to do in order not to receive that crappy red message. Any other attempt failed and I have tried some.

And only the second step is to change the proprieties of the. exe file.

Red Devil · 06-25-21, 03:40 PM

I have just posted in general comments about this - I am getting the red screen too. Will reinstallation fix this problem. Its currently residing on my E Drive which I use mainly for games.

The 'elevated' system looks complicated but will try it if I have to

Sosondowah · 10-05-21, 12:20 PM

Just in case anyone is still giving a damn on this issue ...

This is how this particular registry key should look like:

https://ibb.co/SXMgG5d

And this is how the SH4.exe file proprieties should be:

https://ibb.co/mXFkKpJ

Red Devil · 06-25-21, 04:14 PM

On advice from a win 10 forum I did the following:

Search box, regedit and follow this path;

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\System

Open system and look opposite for enableLUA. Click on this and you will see on the pop up a rectangle with a 1 it it. change this to 0 And click OK. Close this down, close down the pc and then boot it up again. The problem was fixed on mine and I went straight into the game.

The problem was caused by a recent windows feature upgrade which has screwed many pc SH4 gamers up and probably others. I have asked an insider to speak to MS and kick them up the (cough). Telling them off for fixing something which was not broke.

fitzcarraldo · 06-25-21, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Devil

On advice from a win 10 forum I did the following:

Search box, regedit and follow this path;

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\System

Open system and look opposite for enableLUA. Click on this and you will see on the pop up a rectangle with a 1 it it. change this to 0 And click OK. Close this down, close down the pc and then boot it up again. The problem was fixed on mine and I went straight into the game.

The problem was caused by a recent windows feature upgrade which has screwed many pc SH4 gamers up and probably others. I have asked an insider to speak to MS and kick them up the (cough). Telling them off for fixing something which was not broke.

I used this for FS9, but I had UAC deactivated. FS9.exe continues to don´t work. My SH4 and SH5 work fine with the latest update of W10, with and without UAC (the enableLUA entry in the registry). But MSFS2004 (FS9) is out, and I don´t know how to make work it. Died.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

l02turner · 07-08-21, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Devil

On advice from a win 10 forum I did the following:

Search box, regedit and follow this path;

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\System

Open system and look opposite for enableLUA. Click on this and you will see on the pop up a rectangle with a 1 it it. change this to 0 And click OK. Close this down, close down the pc and then boot it up again. The problem was fixed on mine and I went straight into the game.

The problem was caused by a recent windows feature upgrade which has screwed many pc SH4 gamers up and probably others. I have asked an insider to speak to MS and kick them up the (cough). Telling them off for fixing something which was not broke.

I followed your suggestions and all went well until I clicked "enableLUA" and no popup appeared. I went to Edit\Modify and a pop up opened with a 1 in the white box.

Is that the value I change to 0?

I hesitate to edit the registry as I was always told serious damage can occur so I tread slowly & cautiously. Thanks for the detailed instructions!

Down scope....

IronsMan · 07-18-21, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Devil

On advice from a win 10 forum I did the following:

Search box, regedit and follow this path;

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\System

Open system and look opposite for enableLUA. Click on this and you will see on the pop up a rectangle with a 1 it it. change this to 0 And click OK. Close this down, close down the pc and then boot it up again. The problem was fixed on mine and I went straight into the game.

The problem was caused by a recent windows feature upgrade which has screwed many pc SH4 gamers up and probably others. I have asked an insider to speak to MS and kick them up the (cough). Telling them off for fixing something which was not broke.

Thank you for this. I was about to give up after having the same issue.

03-12-20, 06:21 PM	#1
ironkross Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seneca, SC, USA Posts: 251 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	I am running SH4 right now from the Steam install, in the default Steam folder. I have split my D drive and made a new E drive and put the new Steam library there. However, when I started reading from the link above, about moving the existing Steam folder into the new drive, that's where I get hung up. Step 3. says " Delete all of the files and folders except the SteamApps & Userdata folders and Steam.exe." This seems too extreme! There are a lot of files there. 98,498 Files, 9,123 Folders. I am very hesitant to delete everything except SteamApps and Userdata and the exe. This is where I am, and as I said the game runs ok in the default folder. So... how important is it to run in another drive/folder structure? __________________ If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.

03-12-20, 09:50 PM	#2
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,106 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	It's not important at all if you don't use mods. The alternative method is to install the game to the new E: drive Library folder, but you might have to un-install it first. No matter which way you go, it does take a while to accomplish... that is just the nature of Steam. Those files that you delete in the "manual" method of moving everything, are re-created after the move, so you do need a lot of hard drive space. Steam stays in the Program Files folder (for the most part), but the game and necessary Steam files for the licensing are in the new Library folder. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

04-05-21, 03:20 PM	#4
Sosondowah Watch Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Timișoara/România/Eastern Europe Posts: 28 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Starting today, I am encountering the same issue (see attachment). I wasn't even able to take a screenshot, I had to do a picture with my phone. When I try to start the game normally, nothing happens and this message appears when I try to run the program as an administrator. I have the 1.5 version of the game, the "old" version, not Steam. I've tried to take privileges, to drop security and so on, nothing helps. Did anyone found a solution for this? I mean a real solution, not a workaround. https://ibb.co/XVsrdLP It's funny, I am supposed to be the administrator of my PC, good or bad, but it seems there is a some big brother in a higher plane watching over my safety. __________________ "The Dutch say we are brothers, and joined together with chains, but that lasts only as long as we have beavers; after that no attention is paid to us." Mohawk Leader

04-05-21, 05:24 PM	#5
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,106 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Windows 10 and the 'modern' computing world demand a bit more of a person seeking to run 'legacy' software these days... Read through this, and change the Properties setting of the SH4.exe file: SH4 won't start after recent Win10 update __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

04-12-21, 12:01 AM	#9
Sosondowah Watch Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Timișoara/România/Eastern Europe Posts: 28 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	propbeanie, just in case your above message was meant to be directed to me: it's not safe for your computer to have UAC disabled, which is USER ACCOUNT CONTROL. In my particular situation, that is the first and mandatory required step to do in order not to receive that crappy red message. Any other attempt failed and I have tried some. And only the second step is to change the proprieties of the. exe file. __________________ "The Dutch say we are brothers, and joined together with chains, but that lasts only as long as we have beavers; after that no attention is paid to us." Mohawk Leader Last edited by Sosondowah; 04-12-21 at 01:02 AM.

06-25-21, 03:40 PM	#10
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	I have just posted in general comments about this - I am getting the red screen too. Will reinstallation fix this problem. Its currently residing on my E Drive which I use mainly for games. The 'elevated' system looks complicated but will try it if I have to __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

10-05-21, 12:20 PM	#11
Sosondowah Watch Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Timișoara/România/Eastern Europe Posts: 28 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Just in case anyone is still giving a damn on this issue ... This is how this particular registry key should look like: https://ibb.co/SXMgG5d And this is how the SH4.exe file proprieties should be: https://ibb.co/mXFkKpJ __________________ "The Dutch say we are brothers, and joined together with chains, but that lasts only as long as we have beavers; after that no attention is paid to us." Mohawk Leader

06-25-21, 04:14 PM	#12
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	On advice from a win 10 forum I did the following: Search box, regedit and follow this path; HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\System Open system and look opposite for enableLUA. Click on this and you will see on the pop up a rectangle with a 1 it it. change this to 0 And click OK. Close this down, close down the pc and then boot it up again. The problem was fixed on mine and I went straight into the game. The problem was caused by a recent windows feature upgrade which has screwed many pc SH4 gamers up and probably others. I have asked an insider to speak to MS and kick them up the (cough). Telling them off for fixing something which was not broke. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk