TWoS crashing since update.

ZeeboOnline · 10-15-19, 03:16 AM

I just tried re-installing everything once again and noticed that while using the generic file patcher to patch the game, a pop up appears roughly saying: 'version error. A version of sh5 is a different version than expected. Patch: independent engine controls change 2. Reason: Bytes read does not equal bytes expected by patch'. This is the only error that appears. After I press enter the patching continues as normal. It is probably also important to note that when patching is completed there are only 8 patches rather than the expected 9.

I feel as though I've tried everything at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

propbeanie · 10-15-19, 06:00 AM

I am not certain this would work for an SH5 UPlay version, but I have copied my SH4 UPlay and my Steam SH5 and SH3 to different folders before I patch and / or mod them (SH4 does not have any exe patches). I leave the installed copy of the game as-is. Also, it is important to NOT install into a Program Files folder. But after I install the Stock game, I then copy the entire install inside of the game folder, and paste those contents into a folder of my own choosing elsewhere on the hard drive. Then I do my editing there, and the original install then is the one that the UPlay or Steam app can mess with all they want to. I also do not use the SH4 UPlay shortcut, starting directly from the SH4.exe file. There might be different security on the SH5 game though, and that might not work, I don't know...

THEBERBSTER · 10-15-19, 06:05 AM

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There is a setting in Uplay to stop games updating which might help.
You cam also set Uplay to go offline.

ZeeboOnline · 10-15-19, 06:50 AM

Hello All, I appreciate your efforts to try and help. Unfortunately after trying everything I can think of (re-installing UPlay, logging into UPlay in offline mode, installing TWoS without an internet connection, installing SH5 on a different drive, rebooting PC, re-installing SH5 several times using different methods, disabling auto patches, etc) it is still not working.

I find it very odd that SH5 would download a 3GB patch almost 10 years after release. Does anybody know why and what that could be?

My theory is that the 3GB patch messed with some files (duh) and now TWoS isn't compatible (or doesn't think it's compatible) with SH5. Also just to confirm, my SH5 game is version 1.2.0 which is the correct version I believe for TWoS.

winzaren · 10-15-19, 07:07 AM

Yep, I have the same behaviour.

When I get home I plan to do another fresh reinstall, and then make a checksum from the SH5.exe, this should let us know if ubisoft really updated the executable, or there is something else at play.

propbeanie · 10-15-19, 09:09 AM

THEBERBSTER has links in his signature that can put you on a couple of helpful tutorials if your are having issues with SH5 and TWoS, with his SH5 <> TUTORIALS <>HOW TO DO IT... thread, just to be certain you are attempting the game installation and mod activation correctly. I don't mean to insult anyone's intelligence, and if you've been through this, forgive me. The main one that I found helpful was the ... Step By Step Guide Through TWOS Installation, which includes this gem of a picture from vdr1981, taken from the Setup Notes pdf:

Again, if you've done all of that, I'm sorry for the repetition.

ZeeboOnline · 10-15-19, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

THEBERBSTER has links in his signature that can put you on a couple of helpful tutorials if your are having issues with SH5 and TWoS, with his SH5 <> TUTORIALS <>HOW TO DO IT... thread, just to be certain you are attempting the game installation and mod activation correctly. I don't mean to insult anyone's intelligence, and if you've been through this, forgive me. The main one that I found helpful was the ... Step By Step Guide Through TWOS Installation, which includes this gem of a picture from vdr1981, taken from the Setup Notes pdf:

Again, if you've done all of that, I'm sorry for the repetition.

I appreciate the attempt to help. I have unfortunately already looked this page over ten fold. Scouring it for details I may have missed.

THEBERBSTER · 10-15-19, 11:05 AM

Hi Guys
The SH5 game only installs part of the game this can be seen after you install SH5 and go to the Program Files (x86) directory and open up the game launcher only a small amount of the files are showing.
When you update the game from v1.0.5.0 to to v1.2.0 the rest of the files some 62 complete the setup.
The problems arise when you start the game from the SH5.exe and you run into problems and Uplay decides not to co-operate.

My suggestion is to go to the Control Panels Program and Fatures and uninstall the Ubisoft/Uplay Game Launcher.
You now have the option to install a completely independent game launcher in any drive and folder of your choice, which in my case I use this one in D:\Ubisoft, the folder before the main Silent Hunter 5 main game folder.
SH5 Game Launcher Install It Anywhere On Any Drive > Includes Download Link

If you now open up the game launcher and go to the first game launcher application which is the 32 bit one (not the 64 bit also showing) you can change it by going to properties and then run it as an administrator.

Play Silent Hunter 5 Offline! > Pictorial
Peter

winzaren · 10-15-19, 09:13 AM

Got the checksums for freshly installed SH5.exe
SHA: 5d86a7fa04e2a0d487d86069873a4cd01b994167
MD5: 02fa3f1e5c78432406430f3f6177fcfe

Also the file was signed on 13th August 2019.
https://imgur.com/AxS0o4u

So yeah, it really looks like they pushed a new binary through Uplay.

ZeeboOnline · 10-15-19, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winzaren

Got the checksums for freshly installed SH5.exe
SHA: 5d86a7fa04e2a0d487d86069873a4cd01b994167
MD5: 02fa3f1e5c78432406430f3f6177fcfe

Also the file was signed on 13th August 2019.
https://imgur.com/AxS0o4u

So yeah, it really looks like they pushed a new binary through Uplay.

Is there anything we can do about that? Or do we just have to wait for a new update either by Ubisoft or TWoS team? Also do you know why it doesn't seem to be affecting others? Is it a UPlay thing or region related? My apologies for all the questions but if that's the case I'll probably just purchase another copy on Steam and install TWoS on there.

vdr1981 · 10-16-19, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winzaren

Got the checksums for freshly installed SH5.exe
SHA: 5d86a7fa04e2a0d487d86069873a4cd01b994167
MD5: 02fa3f1e5c78432406430f3f6177fcfe

Also the file was signed on 13th August 2019.
https://imgur.com/AxS0o4u

So yeah, it really looks like they pushed a new binary through Uplay.

I've just reinstalled my SH5 (DVD version) and the game automatically download and install the update 1.2.0. TWoS installation went without problems. What ever all this is about it seems that only affects uplay user...

10-15-19, 06:00 AM	#2
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	I am not certain this would work for an SH5 UPlay version, but I have copied my SH4 UPlay and my Steam SH5 and SH3 to different folders before I patch and / or mod them (SH4 does not have any exe patches). I leave the installed copy of the game as-is. Also, it is important to NOT install into a Program Files folder. But after I install the Stock game, I then copy the entire install inside of the game folder, and paste those contents into a folder of my own choosing elsewhere on the hard drive. Then I do my editing there, and the original install then is the one that the UPlay or Steam app can mess with all they want to. I also do not use the SH4 UPlay shortcut, starting directly from the SH4.exe file. There might be different security on the SH5 game though, and that might not work, I don't know... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

10-15-19, 06:05 AM	#3
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	A Warm Welcome To The Subsim Community winzaren Subsim <> Make A Donation <> See The Benefits <> Support The Community SH3 – 4 - 5 Tutorials > Downloads > Other Useful Information > See Links in My Signature Below There is a setting in Uplay to stop games updating which might help. You cam also set Uplay to go offline. __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

10-15-19, 09:09 AM	#6
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	THEBERBSTER has links in his signature that can put you on a couple of helpful tutorials if your are having issues with SH5 and TWoS, with his SH5 <> TUTORIALS <>HOW TO DO IT... thread, just to be certain you are attempting the game installation and mod activation correctly. I don't mean to insult anyone's intelligence, and if you've been through this, forgive me. The main one that I found helpful was the ... Step By Step Guide Through TWOS Installation, which includes this gem of a picture from vdr1981, taken from the Setup Notes pdf: Again, if you've done all of that, I'm sorry for the repetition. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

10-15-19, 11:05 AM	#8
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	Hi Guys The SH5 game only installs part of the game this can be seen after you install SH5 and go to the Program Files (x86) directory and open up the game launcher only a small amount of the files are showing. When you update the game from v1.0.5.0 to to v1.2.0 the rest of the files some 62 complete the setup. The problems arise when you start the game from the SH5.exe and you run into problems and Uplay decides not to co-operate. My suggestion is to go to the Control Panels Program and Fatures and uninstall the Ubisoft/Uplay Game Launcher. You now have the option to install a completely independent game launcher in any drive and folder of your choice, which in my case I use this one in D:\Ubisoft, the folder before the main Silent Hunter 5 main game folder. SH5 Game Launcher Install It Anywhere On Any Drive > Includes Download Link If you now open up the game launcher and go to the first game launcher application which is the 32 bit one (not the 64 bit also showing) you can change it by going to properties and then run it as an administrator. Play Silent Hunter 5 Offline! > Pictorial Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

10-15-19, 09:13 AM	#9
winzaren Nub Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 4 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Got the checksums for freshly installed SH5.exe SHA: 5d86a7fa04e2a0d487d86069873a4cd01b994167 MD5: 02fa3f1e5c78432406430f3f6177fcfe Also the file was signed on 13th August 2019. https://imgur.com/AxS0o4u So yeah, it really looks like they pushed a new binary through Uplay. Last edited by winzaren; 10-15-19 at 09:17 AM. Reason: rewording

10-15-19, 03:16 AM	#1
ZeeboOnline Swabbie Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 10 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I just tried re-installing everything once again and noticed that while using the generic file patcher to patch the game, a pop up appears roughly saying: 'version error. A version of sh5 is a different version than expected. Patch: independent engine controls change 2. Reason: Bytes read does not equal bytes expected by patch'. This is the only error that appears. After I press enter the patching continues as normal. It is probably also important to note that when patching is completed there are only 8 patches rather than the expected 9. I feel as though I've tried everything at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

10-15-19, 06:50 AM	#4
ZeeboOnline Swabbie Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 10 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Hello All, I appreciate your efforts to try and help. Unfortunately after trying everything I can think of (re-installing UPlay, logging into UPlay in offline mode, installing TWoS without an internet connection, installing SH5 on a different drive, rebooting PC, re-installing SH5 several times using different methods, disabling auto patches, etc) it is still not working. I find it very odd that SH5 would download a 3GB patch almost 10 years after release. Does anybody know why and what that could be? My theory is that the 3GB patch messed with some files (duh) and now TWoS isn't compatible (or doesn't think it's compatible) with SH5. Also just to confirm, my SH5 game is version 1.2.0 which is the correct version I believe for TWoS.

10-15-19, 07:07 AM	#5
winzaren Nub Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 4 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Yep, I have the same behaviour. When I get home I plan to do another fresh reinstall, and then make a checksum from the SH5.exe, this should let us know if ubisoft really updated the executable, or there is something else at play.