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Old 04-15-19, 02:02 PM   #1
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Crikey!!! Disabling SOAN makes a hell of a difference, loads instantaneously now Thanks for the tip.
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Old 04-15-19, 02:12 PM   #2
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What is SOAN?

Just ship recognition manual?
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Old 04-15-19, 02:45 PM   #3
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What is SOAN?

Just ship recognition manual?
Ships Of All Nations aka the recognition handbook as it appears in TWoS though I have no idea if disabling it doesnt also turn off some targeting related functions. I have it off because at the moment I'm modding the game rather than playing it, so it makes no difference to me except for fast load times.

For my game, black screen when loading game is 4 minues with SOAN on, and like 5 seconds with SOAN off.
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Old 04-15-19, 03:05 PM   #4
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Hi Vecko,

I stumbled on a little error in TWoS roster:

Polish destroyer ORP Wicher is inaccurately represented in game by Type 34 model, which it didn't resemble at all. Real ORP Wicher was copy of French Bourrasque, which we fortunately also have in game - replacing current model with Bourrasque clone would give Wicher its historical appearance:
WW2 ORP Wicher photo

I guess using Type 34 might be result of confusion with post-war, Soviet-built ship of the same name which did resemble Type 34

Photo of post-war ORP Wicher

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Similar situation with another Polish destroyer ORP Grom, which uses Tribal class 3D model, when real ORP Grom (photo) was more similar to (also present in game) R-Class destroyer (photo). And again, the only ORP Grom with two stacks like Tribal and similar bow shape is post-war ORP Grom from 1950, also built in USSR (photo)

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Old 04-16-19, 09:08 AM   #5
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Hi Vecko,

I stumbled on a little error in TWoS roster:

Polish destroyer ORP Wicher is inaccurately represented in game by Type 34 model, which it didn't resemble at all. Real ORP Wicher was copy of French Bourrasque, which we fortunately also have in game - replacing current model with Bourrasque clone would give Wicher its historical appearance:
WW2 ORP Wicher photo

I guess using Type 34 might be result of confusion with post-war, Soviet-built ship of the same name which did resemble Type 34

Photo of post-war ORP Wicher

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Similar situation with another Polish destroyer ORP Grom, which uses Tribal class 3D model, when real ORP Grom (photo) was more similar to (also present in game) R-Class destroyer (photo). And again, the only ORP Grom with two stacks like Tribal and similar bow shape is post-war ORP Grom from 1950, also built in USSR (photo)
Thanks kapuhy , I'll try to fix this in the next update...
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Old 04-16-19, 01:49 PM   #6
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Thanks kapuhy , I'll try to fix this in the next update...
I've replaced both ships in my copy of the game so if you'd like the modded files I'll upload them for you.

Now that I look at it, ORP Gryf minelayer would also have to be changed - not because of being incorrect (AFAIK there's no ship model in SH5 that looks like original Gryf, this ship had quite a distinctive shape, so any similar size single stack DD would do) but because it currently uses R class model so assigning it to both Gryf and Grom would be confusing. Below is how it really looked - I honestly don't know which SH5 model would fit best.

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