[WIP] Fairmile B Motor Launch

[kapuhy]

Originally Posted by gap

import them in game using either Skwas' Silent3ditor or TDW's gr2 importer/exporter.

Thanks! I wasn't even aware TDW's gr2 editor had import option, only after your answer I finally found it. I'll have to take a closer look at it.

Originally Posted by vdr1981

This is the only way to actually have different paints for different nations...

Considering no one has yet used this method to "paint" bajillion historical ship names / numbers on the hulls, I guess it does come with some drawbacks though?

[gap]

Originally Posted by vdr1981

This doesn't work very well since ships will always be rendered with the same paint, regardless of roster cfg settings if spawned in one convoy, for example.


This is the only way to actually have different paints for different nations...

Yes, that's a known drawback of the SH5 multi-texturing system, but are you sure that it doesn't apply to proxy clones as well?

Other than that, I think that despite the fact that we can have any number of textures set in the cfg file, only the first three texture definitions are actually used as early, middle and late war camouflages, set in GroupTypesDefs.cfg as 0, 1 and 2 respectively. This is a little disappointing because roster texture definitions have start/end dates and frequency settings, suggesting a random texture assignment based on in-game dates. Those settings can as well be the clue of an unfinished feature (as it is common in SH games), but before discarding them, has anyone tried setting the camouflage parameter to -1 and seeing if such a setting forces the game to use more that three textures and to apply date and frequency parameters?

Originally Posted by kapuhy

Thanks! I wasn't even aware TDW's gr2 editor had import option, only after your answer I finally found it. I'll have to take a closer look at it.

[vdr1981]

Originally Posted by gap

Yes, that's a known drawback of the SH5 multi-texturing system, but are you sure that it doesn't apply to proxy clones as well?

Pretty much, yes...

[gap]

Originally Posted by vdr1981

Pretty much, yes...

What about that?

Originally Posted by gap

has anyone tried setting the camouflage parameter to -1 and seeing if such a setting forces the game to use more that three textures and to apply date and frequency parameters?

[vdr1981]

Originally Posted by gap

What about that?

From my experience, one 3D model (gr2 or dat) = one paint , if rendered in the same scene (area). I cloned a number of dat units using S3D editor in order to bypass this problem.

Solution with roster cfg files can work pretty well in case of units which will probably wont ever be rendered in the same area, for example some British and German generic freighter, used by both nations...

[gap]

Originally Posted by vdr1981

From my experience, one 3D model (gr2 or dat) = one paint , if rendered in the same scene (area). I cloned a number of dat units using S3D editor in order to bypass this problem.

Solution with roster cfg files can work pretty well in case of units which will probably wont ever be rendered in the same area, for example some British and German generic freighter, used by both nations...

Yes, we already agreed on that, but my question was relative to a different (though related) topic. Please re-read my remarks on it:

Originally Posted by gap

...despite the fact that we can have any number of textures set in the cfg file, only the first three texture definitions are actually seen in game as early, middle and late war camouflages, set in GroupTypesDefs.cfg as 0, 1 and 2 respectively.

This is a bit disappointing because roster texture definitions have start/end dates and frequency settings, suggesting a random texture assignment based on in-game dates. Those settings can as well be the clue of an unfinished feature (as it is common in SH games), but before discarding them, has anyone tried setting the camouflage parameter to -1 and seeing if such a setting forces the game to use more that three textures and to apply date and frequency parameters?

[vdr1981]

Originally Posted by gap

Yes, we already agreed on that, but my question was relative to a different (though related) topic. Please re-read my remarks on it:

Can't really comment that. It needs to be tested...