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Old 01-01-19, 11:50 AM   #1
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Hi Gap,

Is it possible to change their texture so they will not flicker with Nvidia cards?
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Old 01-01-19, 06:28 PM   #2
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Is it possible to change their texture so they will not flicker with Nvidia cards?
I am currently running the game on a laptop with an NVidia card; in my SH5 install I have several visual glitches and flickerings, but I didn't notice any flickering labels.

That said, the problem you are experiencing might depend on the combination of several factors, such as GFX card, driver version, graphic settings AND some surfaces being too close to each other. In theory we could move those labels slightly away from the devices they are attached to, but doing that for all of them would be a little PITA.

Are all the labels equally affected by the flickering?
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Yes they are all equally affected.

I recently changed my PC with a new graphic card wich is Nvidia GTX 1050 TI (my old one was ZOTAC 580) and i have exact same visual glitches as before.

Of course i can live with them as i did for years now...
I have a flickering on the hydrophone round button left low side (not always - this button doesn’t have any fonction btw)
In the radio room beside the gramophone, there is a square panel that flicker too (not always)
All the labels mentioned in this thread are flickering in the command room (always)
When I choose a side emblem, looking with external camera it flickers often (a lot less with my new card)
And last glitche, looking up the sky I have strange triangular artefacts flashing very often.
With my old card, I had sometimes smoke bubbles glitches on the sea when close to other boats, but didn’t see it so far with new card…

Thanks to Nvidia for those additional visual effects!

Ps: I have latest drivers (Nvidia 417.35)
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Old 01-02-19, 09:33 AM   #4
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Yes they are all equally affected.

I recently changed my PC with a new graphic card wich is Nvidia GTX 1050 TI (my old one was ZOTAC 580) and i have exact same visual glitches as before.

Of course i can live with them as i did for years now...
I have a flickering on the hydrophone round button left low side (not always - this button doesn’t have any fonction btw)
In the radio room beside the gramophone, there is a square panel that flicker too (not always)
All the labels mentioned in this thread are flickering in the command room (always)
When I choose a side emblem, looking with external camera it flickers often (a lot less with my new card)
And last glitche, looking up the sky I have strange triangular artefacts flashing very often.
With my old card, I had sometimes smoke bubbles glitches on the sea when close to other boats, but didn’t see it so far with new card…

Thanks to Nvidia for those additional visual effects!

Ps: I have latest drivers (Nvidia 417.35)
I have a GTX 850M, not exactly the top of the line and much older / lesser performing than your card. I used to have many of the visual glitches that you have mentioned, including the weird triangular artifacts that you have described (for me they appeared between sky and land IIRC); lately most of them have disappeared though I cannot say if it was a new driver or a change in graphic settings that (accidentally) solved or subdued them. The one glitches I still have, is terrain textures flickering in free camera view, when seen from a certain height, especially when the weather is cloudy and the borders of textures with an opacity layer applied (trees, some flags, etc.) becoming visible at times. If you want, I can send you a screenshot of my Nvidia Control Panel graphic settings, in case they can help you tracking down the flickering labels problem
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Old 01-02-19, 01:19 PM   #5
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Is it possible to change their texture so they will not flicker with Nvidia cards?
I often experience flickering on ships
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I often experience flickering on ships
True, that's something I always had, even when I was playing the game on a PC with an ATI card. I think this glitch is not in stock game, but it was introduced with some camera settings included in NewUI's (part of TWoS)
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@ Badileus:

before I start messing with textures and labels, can you make sure that some of the original labels replaced in TWoS by other labels (see my post #7), aren't more appropriate for CR/EER devices?
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@ Badileus:

before I start messing with textures and labels, can you make sure that some of the original labels replaced in TWoS by other labels (see my post #7), aren't more appropriate for CR/EER devices?

Unfortunately almost none of all these labels (in file CR9C2.dds; original and TWoS) are usable in any other place than the TDC, for which they are apparently created. If it is any help, here is a picture of the TDC with the corresponding german terms (I couldt not make out the meaning of every gauge though).

https://imgur.com/OAAb7EP

So, for example, every time i am in the EER and look at the gauges left and right, i see them all lableled with "Streuwinkel" (=spread angle), two with "Entfernung" (=range), and this of course is silly and i can´t get used to it. To make things not too complicated, for the EER perhaps it wouldt be enough to change these to plates with the term "Spannungsregler" (voltage regulator) and "Schaltautomat" (switching automat). Much more sense.

I found, that the file CR8C2.dds contains exactly these plates of the EER. If they are not needed elsewhere, they can be simply changed then, right? So, "Streuwinkel" -> "Spannungsregler" and "Entfernung" -> "Schaltautomat". There are two brighter plates labeled "Leistung". They shouldt be labeled with "Amp-Meter" and "Volt-Meter". But how to put them to the corresponding gauges (the 2 different scales: for Ampere and Volt)?

By the way, i noticed that some of the plates (CR9C2.dds, TWoS-Version) are nowhere correctly used, as far as i can see. Perhaps i missed something. These are:

"Frequenzbereich"
"Frequenzabgleich"
"Entfernungsskala"
"Abfragen/Einstellen"
"Null Stellen"

and "Schiffspeilung" is there twice . Perhaps they can be changed and used elsewhere.

I noticed, that there are some other (bigger) plates on some devices, such as "Heizungs- und Teleskopbeleuchtung" in the CR. Don´t know if this one is correctly placed and where the source is. Is it perhaps possible to change the graphics of some devices and "paint" labeled plates on them, so that they are fixed and individual?
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I tried to change the black plates in the E-Engineroom (in the file CR8C_2.dds), and it seems to work! If i get no further problems, at least i am satisfied with the EER now (not tried changing the "Leistung"-plates yet). But better than nothing...

Can anyone perhaps tell me the optimal editing method for dds-files in SH5? I used Photoshop Elements 10 with a dds-plugin, but I am not sure if i have loaded and saved the file correctly. Here an image of my loading- and saving-dialogs.

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Thanks!
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Hi Badileus and sorry for my late replies. Please find them below

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I found, that the file CR8C2.dds contains exactly these plates of the EER. If they are not needed elsewhere, they can be simply changed then, right? So, "Streuwinkel" -> "Spannungsregler" and "Entfernung" -> "Schaltautomat". There are two brighter plates labeled "Leistung". They shouldt be labeled with "Amp-Meter" and "Volt-Meter". But how to put them to the corresponding gauges (the 2 different scales: for Ampere and Volt)?
CR8C2.dds is not among the stock files, and I doubt that it is actually used in TWoS. It was probably created by the author of the interior mod included in TWoS, in hope that one day someone could import it in game: at that time there was no GR2 Editor at all.

Now we can do that, at least in theory

Can you send me that texture too?

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By the way, i noticed that some of the plates (CR9C2.dds, TWoS-Version) are nowhere correctly used, as far as i can see. Perhaps i missed something. These are:

"Frequenzbereich"
"Frequenzabgleich"
"Entfernungsskala"
"Abfragen/Einstellen"
"Null Stellen"

and "Schiffspeilung" is there twice . Perhaps they can be changed and used elsewhere.
Sure they can

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I noticed, that there are some other (bigger) plates on some devices, such as "Heizungs- und Teleskopbeleuchtung" in the CR. Don´t know if this one is correctly placed and where the source is. Is it perhaps possible to change the graphics of some devices and "paint" labeled plates on them, so that they are fixed and individual?
Not sure what you mean here. Could you please illustrate your question with a screenshot?

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I tried to change the black plates in the E-Engineroom (in the file CR8C_2.dds), and it seems to work! If i get no further problems, at least i am satisfied with the EER now (not tried changing the "Leistung"-plates yet). But better than nothing...
Well done!

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Can anyone perhaps tell me the optimal editing method for dds-files in SH5? I used Photoshop Elements 10 with a dds-plugin, but I am not sure if i have loaded and saved the file correctly. Here an image of my loading- and saving-dialogs.
You should check the 'Generate MIP maps' radio button and save as DXT5 (interpolated alpha). My suggestion is to redo your changes on a clean copy of the file, because with your current save settings, the alpha channel (used as specular mask) was lost.
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I often experience flickering on ships
Yep, i forgot this too... but with my new card it seems calm down a bit.
At least it’s not always as before.
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