10 Dead in Santa Fe, Texas, School Shooting. Student shooter in custody.

Commander Wallace · 05-18-18, 03:23 PM

There has been yet another school shooting, this time in Santa Fe, Texas. The shooter has been identified as Dimitrios Pagourtzis, 17. The shooter A teenage allegedly shouted “surprise” before opening fire on students and teachers at Santa Fe High School in Texas. There have been a confirmed 9 students killed in addition to one teacher bringing the total to ten so far. Another ten have been wounded.

Quote: On April 30, Pagourtzis posted a photo to Facebook of a t-shirt with the words, “Born to Kill” written across it. CW39 reports that witnesses saw the Santa Fe High School suspect wearing a “Born to Kill” t-shirt and “army boots.” Those witnesses added that the suspect is “quiet” and “kept to himself.”
According to his now-deleted Facebook page, Pagourtzis is in the 11th grade at Santa Fe High School. Also on that page, Pagourtzis promoted a YouTube channel under the pseudonym Comma Kazi. The channel features three uploaded videos of various rap songs. The last update came in 2013.

Initial reports indicated that the suspect was armed with a sawed-off shotgun, a pistol and was carrying pipe bombs.
Three gun incidents in eight days

Friday's shooting was the third time someone with a gun was reported on a US school in recent days.
On Wednesday, an Illinois school resource officer shot and wounded a former student who fired a weapon near a graduation rehearsal at Dixon High School, authorities said. The suspected gunman faces three charges of aggravated discharge of a firearm.

On May 11, a 14-year-old boy in In Palmdale, California, went to Highland High, his former school, and began shooting a semiautomatic rifle shortly before classes began, authorities said. He was taken into custody and is accused of attempted murder. One person was wounded.

https://usauknews.com/dimitrios-pago...-need-to-know/

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/u...-fe-texas.html

While the debates will start anew, I believe the time has come for schools and communities to institute safety measures in our schools to protect their students. What are you waiting for ?? You can't wait any longer.

vienna · 05-18-18, 03:29 PM

No words...

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vienna · 05-18-18, 04:00 PM

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Mr Quatro · 05-18-18, 04:32 PM

Really sad and so shocking for it to be 9 students and one teacher, plus so close to graduation. Praying is all I can do ... it's all any of us can do.

Now everyone will be telling Trump what to do about gun laws ... it's really all about nut jobs vs legal owners of fire arms.

Jimbuna · 05-19-18, 05:06 AM

Tragic

Platapus · 05-19-18, 07:07 AM

I am glad he was taken alive. We need to study him and try to find out why some people choose to take these horrible actions.

MaDef · 05-19-18, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I am glad he was taken alive. We need to study him and try to find out why some people choose to take these horrible actions.

that would be a waste of time and effort, the prisons and homeless shelters are full of people just like this kid, not to mention the 40+ million others who are considered to have mental health conditions. It's like asking why water is wet.

Mr Quatro · 05-19-18, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I am glad he was taken alive. We need to study him and try to find out why some people choose to take these horrible actions.

They said on the news that he was bullied by his football coaches and other team players, plus he just confessed in jail that he didn't shoot students that he liked.

Personality disorder brought on by the atmosphere he lived in

Platapus · 05-19-18, 01:43 PM

bullied by the coaches? I hope that will be investigated

Skybird · 05-19-18, 03:34 PM

Bangbangbang. Oooops, another one. Never again, we're sorry. Bangbangbang. Oooops, another one. Never again, we're sorry. Bangbangbang. Oooops, another one. Never again, we're sorry.

And no, its not about gang violence in the neighbourhood. Its about a failing society, and its sick glorification of violence as an entertainment format.

Onkel Neal · 05-19-18, 07:27 PM

In my old neighborhood
https://goo.gl/maps/7kYp73BCYGw

THE_MASK · 05-20-18, 05:08 PM

Coming from a country with good gun laws i can say that restricting high powered guns works . Americans are in denial if they think restricting high powered guns from the general public wouldnt work .
The american government should print money and buy back the high powered guns at a fair price . Imagine all that money in the economy .
My two cents .

Platapus · 05-20-18, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sober

Coming from a country with good gun laws i can say that restricting high powered guns works . Americans are in denial if they think restricting high powered guns from the general public wouldnt work .
The american government should print money and buy back the high powered guns at a fair price . Imagine all that money in the economy .
My two cents .

It would be nice if things worked like that, but they don't always do.

One can't take policy that may have worked in one country, one culture,, one people, one location, and under one set of circumstances and expect it to apply equally to a different country, culture, people, location and circumstances.

There needs to be a solution that works with the American country, culture, people, locations, and our set of circumstances. What that solution is, is currently unknown. I know what my opinions are of the solution but then so does everyone else have their opinions.

It will not be an easy problem to solve and that is, of course, assuming that the problem can be solved. With an apology to Samuel Johnson, not all problems have acceptable solutions.

STEED · 05-20-18, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Bangbangbang. Oooops, another one. Never again, we're sorry. Bangbangbang. Oooops, another one. Never again, we're sorry. Bangbangbang. Oooops, another one. Never again, we're sorry.

And no, its not about gang violence in the neighbourhood. Its about a failing society, and its sick glorification of violence as an entertainment format.

I get rather tied off those statements, they will never win, never again, we will learn from it and so on. And yet it will happen again, I wish it will not but we all know it will.

August · 05-20-18, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sober

Coming from a country with good gun laws

What country would that be?

05-18-18, 03:23 PM	#1
Commander Wallace Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Under the sea in an Octupus garden in the shade Posts: 5,294 Downloads: 366 Uploads: 0	10 Dead in Santa Fe, Texas, School Shooting. Student shooter in custody. There has been yet another school shooting, this time in Santa Fe, Texas. The shooter has been identified as Dimitrios Pagourtzis, 17. The shooter A teenage allegedly shouted “surprise” before opening fire on students and teachers at Santa Fe High School in Texas. There have been a confirmed 9 students killed in addition to one teacher bringing the total to ten so far. Another ten have been wounded. Quote: On April 30, Pagourtzis posted a photo to Facebook of a t-shirt with the words, “Born to Kill” written across it. CW39 reports that witnesses saw the Santa Fe High School suspect wearing a “Born to Kill” t-shirt and “army boots.” Those witnesses added that the suspect is “quiet” and “kept to himself.” According to his now-deleted Facebook page, Pagourtzis is in the 11th grade at Santa Fe High School. Also on that page, Pagourtzis promoted a YouTube channel under the pseudonym Comma Kazi. The channel features three uploaded videos of various rap songs. The last update came in 2013. Initial reports indicated that the suspect was armed with a sawed-off shotgun, a pistol and was carrying pipe bombs. Three gun incidents in eight days Friday's shooting was the third time someone with a gun was reported on a US school in recent days. On Wednesday, an Illinois school resource officer shot and wounded a former student who fired a weapon near a graduation rehearsal at Dixon High School, authorities said. The suspected gunman faces three charges of aggravated discharge of a firearm. On May 11, a 14-year-old boy in In Palmdale, California, went to Highland High, his former school, and began shooting a semiautomatic rifle shortly before classes began, authorities said. He was taken into custody and is accused of attempted murder. One person was wounded. https://usauknews.com/dimitrios-pago...-need-to-know/ https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/u...-fe-texas.html While the debates will start anew, I believe the time has come for schools and communities to institute safety measures in our schools to protect their students. What are you waiting for ?? You can't wait any longer.

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Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Really sad and so shocking for it to be 9 students and one teacher, plus so close to graduation. Praying is all I can do ... it's all any of us can do. Now everyone will be telling Trump what to do about gun laws ... it's really all about nut jobs vs legal owners of fire arms. __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I am glad he was taken alive. We need to study him and try to find out why some people choose to take these horrible actions. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	bullied by the coaches? I hope that will be investigated __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Bangbangbang. Oooops, another one. Never again, we're sorry. Bangbangbang. Oooops, another one. Never again, we're sorry. Bangbangbang. Oooops, another one. Never again, we're sorry. And no, its not about gang violence in the neighbourhood. Its about a failing society, and its sick glorification of violence as an entertainment format. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Coming from a country with good gun laws i can say that restricting high powered guns works . Americans are in denial if they think restricting high powered guns from the general public wouldnt work . The american government should print money and buy back the high powered guns at a fair price . Imagine all that money in the economy . My two cents . Last edited by THE_MASK; 05-20-18 at 05:18 PM.