Las Vegas: 59 dead in Mandalay Bay shooting

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Originally Posted by Red October1984

The only problem is that laws only apply to those that follow them.

And that is the core of it, everything else in the guns-'n-rifles controversy revolves around this.

In Germany, the gun laws are hilariously tight, I would even call them and the generla German attitude towards firearms hysterical. You are not allowed to just own a pistol, you have to be a sport club mmeber, you must conduct 18 shooting sessions per year which must be documented in writing and must be confirmed by a club president, and you have to participate in tournaments regularly, to illustrate your "need" of why you must hold a weapons license. You are not allowed to just own a pistol, not even just in yourhousehol, not carried in public. My father, age 73, quit sport shooting early this year and refused to obey to all that paternalism, and gave back his full license then. He was pissed. - Want to see a German popping up like corn? Tell him you want to have a pistol, its as if you press a button: plopp! We have some of the very tightest gun laws ince the world, and still they want to tighten the screws whenever somebody did somehting with a firearm. That over 99,9% of criminal deeds involving firearms, are done with illegal firearms, nobody cares for. It gets completely ignored, completely. They cannot get the criminals, so they relieve their steam at the cost of sport shooters and the right for private property. On the other side a documentary some days ago showed how easy you can get an illegal pistol in Germany if you know how. Police says (police!) in Berlin it takes you two hours, then you can have one, if you want.

And then there is the darknet.

Tightening gun laws on and on, just does not work. You hit the wrong crowd by that, to over 99.9%. You declare them all to be under general suspicion, and that they must prove their innocence - and they must prove it time and time and time again. And even then the public opinion and mainstream media nevertheless are hostile to them. You are expected to not wantintg to have a firearm, you are expected to just tick right, you are expected to be a good boy. And a servile victim. Being victim instead of defending yourself, declares your deüendency and indifference, and that are much wanted qualities nowadays.

The rate of deaths by car accidents trumps amok runs anyway, easily. But no outcry.