Las Vegas: 59 dead in Mandalay Bay shooting

Mr Quatro · 10-02-17, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

4.5 minutes? Over here it was reported the firing went on for 20 minutes.

ABC and GMA said 4 and 1/2 minutes, but witnesses say 10 minutes.

The shooting started while performer Jason Aldean was onstage. Witnesses described a chaotic scene of back-to-back bullets raining down from above, lasting for up to 10 minutes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/la...ay-bay-n806461

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Fellow performer Jake Owen said he was standing about 50 feet away from Aldean when the shots started.

"It got faster and faster, almost like it was an automatic rifle," Owen said. "At that point, everyone on stage started running everywhere."

Owen dashed by victims covered in blood and eventually found shelter in his bus. The gunfire still hadn't stopped by the time he got there, he said.

"It wasn't something that was quick. It was chaos for a pure seven to 10 minutes," he said.

What I don't understand is why it took 3 hours to find out that the shooter was dead.

Onkel Neal · 10-02-17, 11:57 AM

Automatic weapon, 32nd floor, shooting across a street at a large concert crowd within a fenced area... There was some serious planning involved here.

Julhelm · 10-02-17, 12:44 PM

Anyone know what weapon he used?

Jimbuna · 10-02-17, 12:53 PM

Too early to say but the authorities are suggesting at least one of the weapons may have been modified to allow fully automatic bursts of fire.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/u...s.html?mcubz=1

eddie · 10-02-17, 12:56 PM

They say he had 10 different rifles in his room when they found him. I want to know how you get that many weapons into a hotel, without anyone noticing!?!

mapuc · 10-02-17, 01:36 PM

It's hard to believe that someone can do such a terrible thing. It's also hard to get a grip about.

I have also noticed there are people who are beginning to create conspiracy about this event.

1. Someone have killed this 64 years old and use him as an scapegoat,

2. He had converted to Islam and acted under order from ISIS.

That is the problem when some people have to much fantasy/imagination and can't see the different between reality and fantasy.

It is so terrible. I hope they will find out why this person did it.

Markus

mako88sb · 10-02-17, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

They say he had 10 different rifles in his room when they found him. I want to know how you get that many weapons into a hotel, without anyone noticing!?!

He planned it well to get the maximum carnage possible so I don't think it would have been too hard for him to find a way to get the weapons to his room. I don't know how long he was actually there. A few days? It would just take a few trips and I imagine he selected weapons that would be fairly easy to conceal.

Platapus · 10-02-17, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

They say he had 10 different rifles in his room when they found him. I want to know how you get that many weapons into a hotel, without anyone noticing!?!

luggage?

break down the rifles and put it in luggage

Rockstar · 10-02-17, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

They say he had 10 different rifles in his room when they found him. I want to know how you get that many weapons into a hotel, without anyone noticing!?!

Mr Quatro · 10-02-17, 03:21 PM

He left us a few clues ...

1. He was a pilot and owned a small plane spells he is not that dumb
2. He owned several homes and just sold them moving into the one he has now
3. He was a heavy gambler into video poker
4. He had more guns and ammunition at home
5. His own brother, who lives in California, moved him into his present home a year ago
6. His own brother didn't know he was into guns
7. He checked into that hotel on Thursday
8. The country music festival was Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night ...
9. That many guns and stock pile of ammunition had to be premeditated
10 He didn't know how to shoot an automatic weapon or he would've shot in small burst ...

Whoever sold him those guns semi or automatic is probably on the run before the ATF catches up with him

eddie · 10-02-17, 12:52 PM

Such a sad and tragic event, my heart goes out to all who suffered from this ignorant act.

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Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Automatic weapon, 32nd floor, shooting across a street at a large concert crowd within a fenced area... There was some serious planning involved here. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,561 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Too early to say but the authorities are suggesting at least one of the weapons may have been modified to allow fully automatic bursts of fire. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/u...s.html?mcubz=1 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	They say he had 10 different rifles in his room when they found him. I want to know how you get that many weapons into a hotel, without anyone noticing!?! __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

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Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	He left us a few clues ... 1. He was a pilot and owned a small plane spells he is not that dumb 2. He owned several homes and just sold them moving into the one he has now 3. He was a heavy gambler into video poker 4. He had more guns and ammunition at home 5. His own brother, who lives in California, moved him into his present home a year ago 6. His own brother didn't know he was into guns 7. He checked into that hotel on Thursday 8. The country music festival was Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night ... 9. That many guns and stock pile of ammunition had to be premeditated 10 He didn't know how to shoot an automatic weapon or he would've shot in small burst ... Whoever sold him those guns semi or automatic is probably on the run before the ATF catches up with him __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

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eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Such a sad and tragic event, my heart goes out to all who suffered from this ignorant act. __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

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Julhelm Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Icy North Posts: 693 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	Anyone know what weapon he used?

10-02-17, 01:36 PM	#6
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,540 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	It's hard to believe that someone can do such a terrible thing. It's also hard to get a grip about. I have also noticed there are people who are beginning to create conspiracy about this event. 1. Someone have killed this 64 years old and use him as an scapegoat, 2. He had converted to Islam and acted under order from ISIS. That is the problem when some people have to much fantasy/imagination and can't see the different between reality and fantasy. It is so terrible. I hope they will find out why this person did it. Markus