[REL] "New" old unit: Queen Mary ocean liner \ troop transport (Reworked 2017 edition)

There is also another problem about the length of the ship (I've just realised) :

[VonDos]

Originally Posted by Kendras

There is also another problem about the length of the ship (I've just realised) :

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Hi mate.
Are you sure about this draw scale?
My QM is based on original UBOAT234 model, lenght come from this. While reworking i've also tryed sh5 "huge ocean liner" (SH5's Queen Mary) model (from ubisoft), hull obj lenght was really similar:



Similar side view and orthogonal projection method.

If this is wrong and your drawn is correct, my model will be a total loss.
Best regards,
Vd

ps in every case, you can see bow design match.

Originally Posted by VonDos

Hi mate.
Are you sure about this draw scale?
My QM is based on original UBOAT234 model, lenght come from this. While reworking i've also tryed sh5 "huge ocean liner" (SH5's Queen Mary) model (from ubisoft), hull obj lenght was really similar:



Similar side view and orthogonal projection method.

If this is wrong and your drawn is correct, my model will be a total loss.

I've checked in wings3D, and your model has the correct length and width. So the problem is only about heigth, which seems correct on the SH5 model.

[gap]

Originally Posted by Kendras

There is also another problem about the length of the ship (I've just realised) :

I have compared the dimensions of VonDos' model (measured on an hull model he sent me via PM) with the real Queen Mary dimensions. Here they are:

Length overall: 312.3 / 310.7 m (+0.5%)
Length between perpendiculars: 291.9 / 294.1 m (-0.7%)
Beam: 36.2 / 36.0 m (+0.6%)
Draught: 12.9 / 11.9 m (+8.4%)

All in all, I would say that the model by VonDos gets acceptably close to Queen Marie's dimensions. The one significant discrepancy is about draught. The latter may vary depending on cargo + passengers weight; 1 meter of draft between an empty and a fully loaded ship is a big difference, but still plausible.
Talking about overall shape, though with some exceptions (see below), I think the current hull shape matches pretty well one of the construction plans I have found on the web:

 

Talking more in particular about the bow, I think its profile is pretty good, though the bullwarks might need to be lowered a bit...

 

Where in my opinion there is still a lot to be improved, is the bridge...

 

the superstrucuture in general (many corrections, too many for listing them here), and hull's stern profile, which is also totally wrong...

 

This picture shows where VonDos' model is too high :

[VonDos]

At this point, maybe i could try to convert and remap sh5'hull, using modded funnels, masts, ecc on her.

Something like this:





What do you think about this?

If i'll continue with this conversion, this will require weeks in UV remapping, repositioning nodes, rework and adapt details.. btw this hul has an interesting detail level.

Best regards,
Vd

Originally Posted by VonDos

At this point, maybe i could try to convert and remap sh5'hull, using modded funnels, masts, ecc on her.

Something like this:

 

What do you think about this?

Oh yeah ! Please do this, Von Dos ! Keep the most detailed models (from SH5 or from you) for each parts ! But first check SH5 hull with a real construction plan. Even if the general aspect on your screenshots looks already better.

Before modifying the small details on the hull (windows, doors, stairs), could you send a beta test version to us, in case some additional tweaks are needed ?

Originally Posted by VonDos

If i'll continue with this conversion, this will require weeks in UV remapping, repositioning nodes, rework and adapt details.. btw this hul has an interesting detail level.

No matter the time, this beautiful ship deserves it ! So, unless you have other and more urgent projects, I think you should keep working on this "new" old unit !

By the way, it's a good opportunity to improve the textures, in particular the black hull, the (too big) white line between black and red hull, and the wooden floors. Last thing, could you make the windows black instead of light blue ? Or even better : 3D moddeled, in order we can add a light texture during the night !

[VonDos]

Up to date pic...



far from release... but still working..

Best regards,
Vd

ps windows are 3d objects in this model..

Originally Posted by VonDos

Up to date pic...

far from release... but still working..

ps windows are 3d objects in this model..

Great !

What do you think about new colors ?

[the_frog]

Originally Posted by VonDos

... and please consider longitudinal planking for all decks ...