British MOD Says UFO's Aren't Real

They always seem to land in backwoods areas where no proof can be produced. Why don't they land on the White House lawn?

In 50 years of trying, no one has produced any real evidence. Show me an alien artifact. Show me and alien.

I don't deny any possibilities. On the other hand, if they don't want to knock on my front door, screw 'em.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

They always seem to land in backwoods areas where no proof can be produced. Why don't they land on the White House lawn?

They possibly intend to communicate only with intelligent life forms.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Skybird

They possibly intend to communicate only with intelligent life forms.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Plus it'd really screw up the 'Take me to your leader' line.

[Abraham]

Originally Posted by JJ

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Anyway.. when it comes to some advanced extra-terrestrial lifeform that might be checking us out, I believe we'd know about it as much as ants would know about the little microcamera David Attenborough inserts in to their nest.

I think the human race has much more spacial awareness of its environment then ants have...
If extraterrestials were visiting us and checking us out we would have some hard data about it by now.

[Takeda Shingen]

UFOs and space beings? We might as well go on and debate the nature of the Yeti, Bigfoot, the Jersey Devil, Bloody Mary, the Goatman, shadow people and the Tooth Fairy. The truth is out there.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Abraham

I think the human race has much more spacial awareness of its environment then ants have...
If extraterrestials were visiting us and checking us out we would have some hard data about it by now.

Like animals have an idea that they are monitored by telecams from far away, and were marked with radio transmitters?

first rule in exploration ij the wild, and animal observation: do it in ways so that they are not aware of your presence.Else they flee, or will no longer show their natural behavior.

If someone is advanced enough to reach us on our own little planet, he surely is also advanced enough to easily bypass all technology that we have. His abilities most probably would appear as pure magic to us.

[Abraham]

Originally Posted by Skybird

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If someone is advanced enough to reach us on our own little planet, he surely is also advanced enough to easily bypass all technology that we have. His abilities most probably would appear as pure magic to us.

This is a presumption. Any proof, links? Your statement proves nothing...

[MadMike]

Obviously the UFO debate has it's fringe element, with supposed contactees, New Age nutcases, not to mention the slew of fake photographs (the Gulf Breeze, FL, and Billy Meier incidents for example).

Sorry, but I've met too many reputeable people while in the military who have witnessed such craft (ranging from veteran SAC pilots flying airborne alert, to security police at missile silo's). Others have told stories that show hostile intent by these craft.

http://www.nicap.org/

Yours, Mike

[STEED]

We come in peace but not today.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by MadMike

Obviously the UFO debate has it's fringe element, with supposed contactees, New Age nutcases, not to mention the slew of fake photographs (the Gulf Breeze, FL, and Billy Meier incidents for example).

Sorry, but I've met too many reputeable people while in the military who have witnessed such craft (ranging from veteran SAC pilots flying airborne alert, to security police at missile silo's). Others have told stories that show hostile intent by these craft.

http://www.nicap.org/

Yours, Mike

Hostile intent?

[MadMike]

If you can find a copy of "Above Top Secret" by Timothy Good, I highly recommend it. The content detailing a variety of incidents speaks for itself.
Check out the purported MJ-12 documents here-

Briefing On MJ-12 (7 Pages)

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/9923/MJ12.html

Yours, Mike

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by STEED

We come in peace but not today.

Nice Martian....but I prefer:

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by MadMike

If you can find a copy of "Above Top Secret" by Timothy Good, I highly recommend it. The content detailing a variety of incidents speaks for itself.
Check out the purported MJ-12 documents here-

Briefing On MJ-12 (7 Pages)

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/9923/MJ12.html

Yours, Mike

Roswell, Majestic, and the like, well, red about it, never was sure what to think about it., especially Majestic. That there were some silly remarks being done by officials in order to cover what maybe was an UFO crash is beyond doubt, but in how far that event, if it took place, is evidence for "hostile intentions" I cannot see. If I go into the wild and drive around with a jeep and by accident stirr up a herd of animals, or I sit well-camouflaged on a tree and then fall down and brake my neck, the animals that I overserved hardly could conclude from that that the fact that I approached and observed them was "hostile intent". that description would also need an understanding for "their" motivation. One can do things that another must perceive as hostile - and nevertheless do it for his well-being only, or for other good and constructive reasons. I do not say it is like this in case with UFOs, but I point out that we do not know what they are doing, and why. So we do not know if their intentions are hostile. Maybe a gazelle in the bush also considers it to be hostile if it sees a human setting up a camera (it surely does, because it flees). What the gazelle by genes and instincs is programmed to be able to calculate in it's cognitions dooms it to having always an only very limited understanding of what we are doing, becasue we are so much superior than a gazelle is.

An intelligence reaching us by "travelling" through dimensions, or times, or space, or reaching manifestation thorugh our inner minds, and reach us on earth, surely must be even more superior to us than we are to this gazelle. Earth lies in those ten percent of space in this galaxy alone that represetns the youngest ten percent of all solar systems in this galaxy. That means that ninenty percent of all solar systems are older than earth, bby huindreds of millions of years. For the sake of simplification assuming that the spread pattern of intelligent life in this galaxy is even and regular, this would mean that 90% of those lifeforms in this galaxy that were intelligent enough to survive their evolution are probably millions of years older than we are, and ahead in their develoepment by the same time. It would be rediculous to assume that we and them would meet on even terms, on the same eye level. While they bypass the abyss of space, or time, or dimensions, or mind, we are even not able to walök on all surface of our own homeplanet with ease (talking of the deep sea covering roughly 70% of our planet).

I've red some material on all this myself, too, and never found these Hollywood-like scenarios convincing. Like the Santilli-video ten years ago was a fake, Majestic could be a fals hint, too. Maybe to distract from something diffrent, or an experiment in psychological warfare and to what degree the public can be influenced psychologically.

concerning Roswell, I have put my opinion making on ice, for I have too little trustworthy information too judge if it could be true or not. I tend to assume that this whole thing is just meant to distract from the real core and nature of the UFO phenomenon.

I know the David Jacobs, budd Hopkins and John Macks of this world and red their books, but the only books that have survived on my book shelf are:

Jaques Vallée

"Revelations. Alien contact and Human Deception"
"Dimensions. A Casebook of Alien Cotact"
"Confrontations. A Scientist's Search for Alien Contact"

Although I am quite familiar with the work of Kenneth Ring on NDEs, and think the early two books he wrote on that were pretty good, his book on UFO's I consider to be "Quatsch". A desperate attempt to rationalize the phenomenon, no matter what the cost will be.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Nice Martian....but I prefer:

HEAR, HEAR the proper version.

[Happy Times]

Maybe they are afraid of us and keep hidden. The Earth is a pretty hostile enviroment. :hmm: I can imagine when we go to the stars we are going to be pretty hostile about it. Armed to the teeth and suspious of everybody.