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MadMike 05-08-06 12:13 AM

British MOD Says UFO's Aren't Real
 
UFO study finds no sign of aliens (BBC News)

A confidential Ministry of Defence report on Unidentified Flying Objects has concluded that there is no proof of alien life forms.
In spite of the secrecy surrounding the UFO study, it seems citizens of planet Earth have little to worry about.

The report, which was completed in 2000 and stamped "Secret: UK Eyes Only", has been made public for the first time.

Only a small number of copies were produced and the identity of the man who wrote it has been protected.

His findings were only made public thanks to the Freedom of Information Act, after a request by Sheffield Hallam University academic Dr David Clarke.

The four-year study - entitled Unidentified Aerial Phenomena in the UK - tackles the long-running question by UFO-spotters: "Is anyone out there?"

The answer, it seems, is "no".

The 400-page report puts it like this: "No evidence exists to suggest that the phenomena seen are hostile or under any type of control, other than that of natural physical forces."

It adds: "There is no evidence that 'solid' objects exist which could cause a collision hazard."

So if there are no such things as little green men in spaceships or flying saucers, why have so many people reported seeing them?

Well, here is the science bit.

"Evidence suggests that meteors and their well-known effects and, possibly some other less-known effects are responsible for some unidentified aerial phenomena," concludes the report.


Meteors may have been responsible for some UFO sightings

"Considerable evidence exists to support the thesis that the events are almost certainly attributable to physical, electrical and magnetic phenomena in the atmosphere, mesosphere and ionosphere.

"They appear to originate due to more than one set of weather and electrically-charged conditions and are observed so infrequently as to make them unique to the majority of observers."

People who claim to have had a "close encounter" are often difficult to persuade that they did not really see what they thought they saw. The report offers a possible medical explanation.

"The close proximity of plasma related fields can adversely affect a vehicle or person," states the report.

"Local fields of this type have been medically proven to cause responses in the temporal lobes of the human brain. These result in the observer sustaining (and later describing and retaining) his or her own vivid, but mainly incorrect, description of what is experienced."

There are, of course, other causes of UFOs - aeroplanes with particularly bright lights, stray odd-shaped balloons and strange flocks of birds, to name but a few.


The report admits its findings will not persuade everyone

Yet, it will be difficult to convince everyone that there is a rational explanation for all mysterious movements in the sky.

Some UFO-spotters believe governments will always cover up the truth about UFOs, because they are afraid of admitting that there is something beyond their control.

It is not clear how much time and effort the MoD has spent looking at the skies in recent years, but it appears there are no plans for an in-depth UFO report like the one written in 2000.

A MoD spokesperson said: "Both this study and the original "Flying Saucer Working Party" [already in public domain in the national Archives] concluded that there is insufficient evidence to indicate the presence of any genuine unidentified aerial phenomena.

"It is unlikely that we would carry out any future studies unless such evidence were to emerge."

Riiiiiggghhhttt....

Can't say I ever witnessed one close up. However, I was once in the Black Hills of South Dakota about ten years ago camping. I just happened to look up and see a bright shining object (a little larger than the largest star) traverse the sky much much faster than any satellite (they're easily seen away from the city lights). There was no trail that would accompany a meteor, nor was there any jet noise. So...

I've met quite a few individuals in the military who have witnessed these craft, and to some extent their stories are quite harrowing (from a military technology standpoint).

Astronaut Gordon Cooper's story is quite interesting-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Cooper

A good book to read is "Above Top Secret" by Timothy Good. :o

Yours, Mike

Oberon 05-08-06 12:41 AM

And yet in the same vein....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ne/4977134.stm

But there you have it, I doubt we'd get a straight answer out of anyone bar the ETs, though it's likely that a fair few UFOs are not ET in origin but military test vehicles...particularly the B-2 and F-117 when they were in testing, I should imagine they helped give rise to the flying triangles.
But there's gotta be something out there, there's just too much space for there not to be.

Drebbel 05-08-06 02:19 AM

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So if there are no such things as little green men in spaceships or flying saucers, why have so many people reported seeing them?
Same with angels, science says there can not be such a thing.

Yet many have seen them !

Abraham 05-08-06 03:37 AM

British MOD Says UFO's Aren't Real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drebbel
Same with angels, science says there can not be such a thing.

Yet many have seen them !

I see one on a regular basis... :D

To be more serious: I don't believe in UFO's, Flying Saucers etc.
Some may have been test vehicles.

However, there could be something like supernatural life forms... :hmm:

rogerbo 05-08-06 07:35 AM

Who are we that we should be the only ones in the Universe ??
It may bee that there are no UFO's realy seen on this Planet, but the whole Univers is soooooo Big and in many parts Older the the Earth itself and if the Theory that life came to earth by comets and meteors is right the to asume that Humans are the only inteligent Race in the Univers is just ignorant.

Let's asume that there are races who are older then the Humans and have a much higher technological level then we. If they could invent the long distance space travell, why should they come to us ?? If they come what would they think about us ? Why should they hide from us or oposite why should the show themself to us.

It's a theme with no ends as there is no prove for their exisence as well as there is no prove against their existance. (Jet ?? )

Drebbel 05-08-06 07:41 AM

Re: British MOD Says UFO's Aren't Real
 
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Originally Posted by Abraham
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drebbel
Same with angels, science says there can not be such a thing.

Yet many have seen them !

I see one on a regular basis... :D

Me not going to tell you my angle story, too afraid I will blush.

:oops:

scandium 05-08-06 08:09 AM

"They" may very well be out there, but "there" is a very big place of which we occupy a mere pindrop in both space and time (the history of our species to present).

I have seen a meteor burn up (presumably, it was fairly far off) in the sky though and it was a very spectacular sight even though it probably lasted all of a second or two. :up:

MadMike 05-08-06 08:10 AM

Check out number 35, "UFO Hypothesis and Survival Questions" at the following link-

http://www.nsa.gov/ufo/index.cfm

Yours, Mike

Fish 05-08-06 08:58 AM

For a few years I was walking down the beach, it was a grey day, low clouds all over.
At one moment I see someone els staring at the horizon. When I look in the same direction I see a small light moving with a incredible speed.
Other people start staring too.
Then, after four or five seconds and in in a flash of light, the sun breaks through a hole in the clouds.
I then was aware I was holding my breath for seconds before we understand what happens, people start laughing, relieved. Phew! :(

bradclark1 05-08-06 09:31 AM

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A confidential Ministry of Defence report on Unidentified Flying Objects has concluded that there is no proof of alien life forms.
Tell that to the little green men I saw in my backyard after I drank a twelve pack.

Considering space goes on forever and ever I would think it's improbable we are the only lifeforms.

Konovalov 05-08-06 10:38 AM

http://www.angelfire.com/pa/lkmarvin...s/mymarvin.jpg

TteFAboB 05-08-06 11:19 AM

Arrogance should be made optional in the British journalism curriculum.

STEED 05-08-06 12:41 PM

Listen up people the threat of UFO'S is in hand we got S.H.A.D.O


Are first line of defence, Interceptors.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1...eptorss7qg.jpg

Are second line in the atmosphere, Skyone

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/9...ydivers0hv.jpg

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/3082/skyone1s0ns.jpg

And if they land.

http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/323/ufos5pu.jpg

We got the Mobiles.

http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/9049/mobile3vj.jpg


DON'T PANIC IT'S ALL UNDER CONTROL.

Oberon 05-08-06 03:06 PM

http://www.ufoseries.com/guide/strakersCar.jpg
:D My Mums been in this car :up:


But don't worry, X-com has it under control too :up:

http://www.clive.nl/images/24784.jpg

STEED 05-08-06 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon
http://www.ufoseries.com/guide/strakersCar.jpg
:D My Mums been in this car :up:

oberon's mum works for Ed Straker :up:


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