Muslims on India train assaulted 'because they ate beef'

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

When in Rome do as the Romans. If you're <insert whatever> and start tearing down that which is held sacred to others because your beliefs say it its OK. You had best be ready to suffer the consequences. There's a reason Pakistan exists go eat beef there.

Both parties to the above tragic incident are complete and utter idiots.

Well, I live in a predominantly Christian country, but I still eat meat on Friday. But no-one's tried to kill me for that, because no-one around me is insane enough to kill me for my beliefs.

Besides, if someone's so delicate that they fly into a murderous rage (quite literally when it comes to Islamists) when someone doesn't share their beliefs, then I want to keep offending them.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Well, I live in a predominantly Christian country, but I still eat meat on Friday. But no-one's tried to kill me for that, because no-one around me is insane enough to kill me for my beliefs.

This has very little to do with this...

Originally Posted by Skybird

Rule of thumb: consider the land/place/country you are in, and its predominant population. Just reasonable.

..and everything to do with the rule of law in a country. Western nations tend to be far more tolerant and although religious prejudice exists it is not acted upon like it is in less tolerant states. India and Pakistan have a long and sad history of this and it is not likely to end anytime soon.

[ikalugin]

..and everything to do with the rule of law in a country. Western nations tend to be far more tolerant and although religious prejudice exists it is not acted upon like it is in less tolerant states. India and Pakistan have a long and sad history of this and it is not likely to end anytime soon.

I think it is about how western states are (with a single exception) secular and understand the idea of the rule of law, even though various elements within those states (ie leftists covering for illegal migrants out of moral/ideological reasons) are trying to undermine it.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by u crank

This has very little to do with this...



..and everything to do with the rule of law in a country. Western nations tend to be far more tolerant and although religious prejudice exists it is not acted upon like it is in less tolerant states. India and Pakistan have a long and sad history of this and it is not likely to end anytime soon.

I agree that people in these countries are a lot less tolerant, (though I'm not sure what Pakistan has to do with this? Everything I can find suggests that the Muslims were Indian) but the fact is that the mob was still breaking the law of the country. Vigilante justice is illegal in India. Especially when the vigilantes take a crime with a maximum sentence of 15 years and apply the death penalty.

But here's the thing that we've all missed...

They weren't attacked because of the beef.

"The fight started over seats. We are looking into the matter and we have arrested one of the accused who is a 35-year-old old man from (northern state of) Haryana," Ajay Kumar, a government railway police official told AFP.

http://gulfnews.com/news/asia/india/...sted-1.2048483

So, it seems that some idiot/s decided to use religious tensions to get themselves a better seat

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Well, I live in a predominantly Christian country, but I still eat meat on Friday.

It should be noted that there is nothing in Christianity that prohibits eating of meat on Fridays. That is just a Catholic tradition.

[Gargamel]

It saddens me to see this thread took the turn towards an anti-islamic stance, as usual, when it started out as Hindu's attacking muslims.

May I point out the recent attacks on Muslims in predominately christian countries too?

There's nutters in every group, and historically speaking, the Christian religion is the worst offender of this.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Gargamel

There's nutters in every group, and historically speaking, the Christian religion is the worst offender of this.

Wrong.

Just saying (once again).

And that says an atheist who is quite hostile to the churches.

[Cybermat47]

Why has a thread about Hindu extremism become a thread about Islam?

[Gargamel]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Why has a thread about Hindu extremism become a thread about Islam?

That is how I read most of your statements. If I was in error, I apologize.

[McBeck]

There are extremists in all religions.
I see my obligation to being able to separate extremists from those who are not. That has brought me to a place where I have Christian, Muslim and Hindu friends and I have learned that religion is much about how you choose to view your religion of choice and that is based on the person and the value system of that person.

Do I believe that what I see in the news is a representation of various religions? Not at all. Is it thus right to judge a religion based on what I see in the news? Not at all. People should be judged based on their actions and choices, not on the actions and choices of others.

At the very core of every religion I have been told is the same belief : Treat others, like you want to be treated yourself...

Just my 2 cents...