Minor UI problems with fresh TWoS install

cavedox · 06-20-17, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vdr1981

HI cavedox!

Don't tell me, win 10 with latest update and drivers?

Have you tried win7 compatibility settings?

Sounds like you've seen this issue before! Right on both counts!

I've not tried running with compatibility settings yet, but will do so when i get home tonight and let you know!

You are the TWoS author right?

vdr1981 · 06-20-17, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavedox

Sounds like you've seen this issue before! Right on both counts!

Yes, the issue is quite common for win 10 users but I still don't know why exactly. I even installed latest win 10 built on my PC to see if I could reproduce the issue but still nothing. Everything worked exactly the same like in win7...

Anyway, most of the time win 10 users somehow manage to solve this issue and always by "playing" with following:

- Direct X9.0c (contained within main installer)
- running the game with administration rights
- Win7/8 compatibility settings
- Install location
- GPU drivers
- Disable display scaling on high DPI settings

Search the forum a bit, you'll find plenty of people with exactly the same problem with explanation how did they solve it.

Quote:

You are the TWoS author right?

More like crazy "manager" who was wiling to accept the task which should any sane person avoid at all costs: to collect scattered work of countless modders (including my self), fix their oversights , tweak the hell out of it and to organize it into playable, enjoyable, easy to use/install and stable entirety.

cavedox · 06-20-17, 01:28 PM

Thanks for the info, I'll keep meddling but no luck so far. Screenshot for clarity.

I'm not expecting replies to the below by the way, just adding in details in case someone else finds this useful in the future! If/when I find a fix, I will update.

1. Direct X9.0c (contained within main installer)
a. Already performed, no change.

2. running the game with administration rights
a. Already performed, no change.

3. Win7/8 compatibility settings
a. Tried with compat 7&8, no change.

4. Install location
a. Current location is on a physical hdd, E:\Games\Silent Hunter 5
b. Previous install location (over 1 yr ago) was on the same disk but a different location (E:\Games\SH5) - this issue was not present.
c. I'd like to try relocating to my primary hdd, but I don't want to waste valuable space on my SSD with games.

5. GPU drivers
a. Updated to latest stable release of nVidia drivers (382.53), no change.
b. I have upgraded my graphics card since I last installed. Previously I had a Radeon, now I'm on nVidia. I'd be interested to see what hardware other people with this issue have had.

6. Disable display scaling on high DPI settings
a. Tried with and without this, no change.

My eternal thanks for managing this mod-pack, and all the other modders. You're damn heroes as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks,
Cavey

vdr1981 · 06-20-17, 01:35 PM

That screenshot of yours definitely looks like messed up modlist/installation?

Did you watched video tutorials how to install twos?

cavedox · 06-20-17, 01:57 PM

Yep, I read the thread and watched a video on youtube (which was actually out of date, I think you might have even commented on the video saying "step 2 no longer required").

I'm pretty sure I followed the steps correctly, the first thing I did when I encountered this was to do a clean install extra carefully because I thought I must have messed it up.

Regardless, I'll do another clean install in a new location and see where we get to. I really hope I didn't mess something up in the install, that would be really embarrassing

Thanks!

vdr1981 · 06-20-17, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavedox

Yep, I read the thread and watched a video on youtube (which was actually out of date

You'll find two valid video tutorials in the first post of twos thread...

THEBERBSTER · 06-20-17, 02:22 PM

Hi cavedox
The 382.53 is a 2017 driver that may not be compatible.
This driver may appear after the Windows 10 Creator version 1703 has been installed.
While AMD and Nvidia update drivers Microsoft will also do the same in their updates.
The way to get around this problem is to roll back to your old driver which quite easy to do, you should hopefully find that all is well again!
Post #303) GPU Driver Roll Back To A Previous Version.
Peter

cavedox · 06-20-17, 03:29 PM

This post is long, sorry guys. I don't know how I manage it :/

So regarding the nVidia drivers, before tonight I was either on 382.05 or 381.89. I'm not 100% sure which, but likely to be 382.05. I'm going to try a roll-back anyway but I'm not super confident it'll fix my problem.

I do have a question - do I really need the stuff that on that black panel? Am I missing much by not seeing what's there? I'd like to find a fix just for my own sanity, but if not I can just live with it!

INSTALL NOTES
I've watched the 2nd of the videos on the main TWoS thread (unfortunately there was nothing new that I wasn't aware of already) and completed another install (the issue remains).

Comparing my install step-by-step to the one in the video, there are three differences - I don't think these are the problem, but I'm happy to be wrong

1. The version of the sh5.exe file downloaded directly from UPlay is already v1.2.0.0. When I last installed this a year ago, this was NOT the case (it was 1.0.5 or something) and I used gu.exe to update.

Currently, a fresh UPlay download has the gu.exe application, but does not have the 'Resources' folder that I've seen on screenshots/videos. Running gu.exe triggers uplay to launch the game itself.

2. It appears the TWoS installer I have is more recent than the one used in the video. The installer I downloaded the other day comes packaged with the 2.0.0 mod and 2.0.3 update - or at least when JSGME opens, it already has 2.0.0 and 2.0.3 update listed to be activated, and I get the expected "do you want to overwrite these things" dialog when applying the 2.0.3 update.

3. I'm not using any of the optional mods Self explanatory...

I'm now even more confident that I've done the install correctly, but I'm going to do it again just in case!

Cheers!

06-20-17, 01:35 PM	#4
vdr1981 Navy Seal Join Date: May 2010 Location: Србија Posts: 6,078 Downloads: 581 Uploads: 13	That screenshot of yours definitely looks like messed up modlist/installation? Did you watched video tutorials how to install twos? __________________ Best regards... Vecko The Wolves of Steel v2.2.25_SH5 Expansion Pack_Full The Wolves of Steel v2.2.xx to v2.2.25 - Update PDF Install Instructions How to report an issue If You wish to support my work...

06-20-17, 02:22 PM	#7
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	Hi cavedox The 382.53 is a 2017 driver that may not be compatible. This driver may appear after the Windows 10 Creator version 1703 has been installed. While AMD and Nvidia update drivers Microsoft will also do the same in their updates. The way to get around this problem is to roll back to your old driver which quite easy to do, you should hopefully find that all is well again! Post #303) GPU Driver Roll Back To A Previous Version. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM Last edited by THEBERBSTER; 06-20-17 at 03:03 PM.

06-20-17, 01:28 PM	#3
cavedox Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 8 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the info, I'll keep meddling but no luck so far. Screenshot for clarity. I'm not expecting replies to the below by the way, just adding in details in case someone else finds this useful in the future! If/when I find a fix, I will update. 1. Direct X9.0c (contained within main installer) a. Already performed, no change. 2. running the game with administration rights a. Already performed, no change. 3. Win7/8 compatibility settings a. Tried with compat 7&8, no change. 4. Install location a. Current location is on a physical hdd, E:\Games\Silent Hunter 5 b. Previous install location (over 1 yr ago) was on the same disk but a different location (E:\Games\SH5) - this issue was not present. c. I'd like to try relocating to my primary hdd, but I don't want to waste valuable space on my SSD with games. 5. GPU drivers a. Updated to latest stable release of nVidia drivers (382.53), no change. b. I have upgraded my graphics card since I last installed. Previously I had a Radeon, now I'm on nVidia. I'd be interested to see what hardware other people with this issue have had. 6. Disable display scaling on high DPI settings a. Tried with and without this, no change. My eternal thanks for managing this mod-pack, and all the other modders. You're damn heroes as far as I'm concerned. Thanks, Cavey

06-20-17, 01:57 PM	#5
cavedox Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 8 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Yep, I read the thread and watched a video on youtube (which was actually out of date, I think you might have even commented on the video saying "step 2 no longer required"). I'm pretty sure I followed the steps correctly, the first thing I did when I encountered this was to do a clean install extra carefully because I thought I must have messed it up. Regardless, I'll do another clean install in a new location and see where we get to. I really hope I didn't mess something up in the install, that would be really embarrassing Thanks!

06-20-17, 03:29 PM	#8
cavedox Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 8 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	This post is long, sorry guys. I don't know how I manage it :/ So regarding the nVidia drivers, before tonight I was either on 382.05 or 381.89. I'm not 100% sure which, but likely to be 382.05. I'm going to try a roll-back anyway but I'm not super confident it'll fix my problem. I do have a question - do I really need the stuff that on that black panel? Am I missing much by not seeing what's there? I'd like to find a fix just for my own sanity, but if not I can just live with it! INSTALL NOTES I've watched the 2nd of the videos on the main TWoS thread (unfortunately there was nothing new that I wasn't aware of already) and completed another install (the issue remains). Comparing my install step-by-step to the one in the video, there are three differences - I don't think these are the problem, but I'm happy to be wrong 1. The version of the sh5.exe file downloaded directly from UPlay is already v1.2.0.0. When I last installed this a year ago, this was NOT the case (it was 1.0.5 or something) and I used gu.exe to update. Currently, a fresh UPlay download has the gu.exe application, but does not have the 'Resources' folder that I've seen on screenshots/videos. Running gu.exe triggers uplay to launch the game itself. *2. It appears* the TWoS installer I have is more recent than the one used in the video. The installer I downloaded the other day comes packaged with the 2.0.0 mod and 2.0.3 update - or at least when JSGME opens, it already has 2.0.0 and 2.0.3 update listed to be activated, and I get the expected "do you want to overwrite these things" dialog when applying the 2.0.3 update. 3. I'm not using any of the optional mods** Self explanatory... I'm now even more confident that I've done the install correctly, but I'm going to do it again just in case! Cheers!