[TEC] AA guns

Bubblehead1980 · 06-05-17, 04:14 PM

Likely been asked before but decided to throw this out there. Would it e possible to make it so AA gun crews would target surface vessels? I know silent hunter is often one or the other and I would give up my AA guns if they AI crews would target them again surface vessels with 40 MM, 20 MM .50 cal. plus the deck gun Really would add to things.

ETR3(SS) · 06-05-17, 08:11 PM

I believe if you go into the respective dat file and change the A0 node to a S0 they may engage both. You'd have to make the changes in the upc file as well, possibly the eqp but I think that's just for the AI.

Moonlight · 06-06-17, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

I believe if you go into the respective dat file and change the A0 node to a S0 they may engage both. You'd have to make the changes in the upc file as well, possibly the eqp but I think that's just for the AI.

This is an interesting topic, to the uninitiated like me what the hell is an AO and a S0 node, this is mind boggling stuff I've come across here and I would like to know a bit more about it. If you have the time could you explain what you're talking about in plain English because I'm not a modder by any means but I am interested in what all these acronyms and whatnot mean.

propbeanie · 06-06-17, 10:09 AM

Those are "node" designations used in the DAT file for a vessel, whether ship, air, sub, etc. The letter "M" can be thought of as "Main", as in main armament, followed by a number designation for the gun position. The "S" would be "Secondary", the "A" for Anti-aircraft. There are other designations for other "equipment" used by an "asset". I don't know why, but all this makes me hungry for lunch...

@ Bubblehead1980: I still haven't found the thread / post I was referring to earlier about someone having changed their AI guns to being able to target vessels...

ETR3(SS) · 06-06-17, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight

This is an interesting topic, to the uninitiated like me what the hell is an AO and a S0 node, this is mind boggling stuff I've come across here and I would like to know a bit more about it. If you have the time could you explain what you're talking about in plain English because I'm not a modder by any means but I am interested in what all these acronyms and whatnot mean.

Here's a thread to read then. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=231568

Moonlight · 06-06-17, 02:44 PM

Thanks for the info propbeanie and ETR3(SS), all that info has mostly gone right over my head but the important thing is you modders know what it means and does.
I'll stick to playing this game rather than modding it it'll be much better all round me thinks.

ETR3(SS) · 06-06-17, 04:39 PM

Everybody learns by digging into it and discovering how the game works and sharing that information with others. Either by posting about it or by releasing a mod. Figuring out how it all works and pushing the limits is, for me at least, half the fun of the game.

Bubblehead1980 · 06-06-17, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Everybody learns by digging into it and discovering how the game works and sharing that information with others. Either by posting about it or by releasing a mod. Figuring out how it all works and pushing the limits is, for me at least, half the fun of the game.

Yes, other than is caused CTD(Compulsive Tweaking Disorder) lol. I agree, a lot of fun to see the changes made in the sim, especially when it improves things.

propbeanie · 06-06-17, 05:41 PM

See, me thinks that Moonlight, just by the asking about the letter designations, had been previously bitten by the contagious little CTD mosquito... it's "venom" began infecting him months ago... it is now beginning its work on his brain. The symptoms will only increase from here. Next, he will want to tweak a CFG file and he will eventually succumb and ~have~ to tweak other files. If he starts asking how the menu_1024_768.ini file works, the infection will have consumed him...

What was it we were talking about anyway?...

Bubblehead1980 · 06-08-17, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

I believe if you go into the respective dat file and change the A0 node to a S0 they may engage both. You'd have to make the changes in the upc file as well, possibly the eqp but I think that's just for the AI.

hmm which .dat file? This is definitely on my to do list as I am currently working on 1945 in my RSRD. Deck guns became even more important due to the number of smaller vessels and shallow water ops during this time frame. I am creating traffic accordingly so being able to order 40 MM and 20 MM to fire along with the 5 inch gun(s) will be a great asset.

propbeanie · 06-08-17, 11:51 PM

Let me have s7rikeback come in here. He's working on the AI subs for FotRSU, and he has a Sen Toku shooting up a merchant will all guns a-blaziing...

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...79#post2489579

very nice stuff... He might know which files to look in... Of course, his "sources" were keltos01 and (of course) ETR33(SS)...

ETR3(SS) · 06-09-17, 05:23 AM

Guess it wasn't as easy as I thought. Still looking into this more though. The AI has no problem lighting you up with all they've got but the player doing the same seems more difficult.

s7rikeback · 06-09-17, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Yes, other than is caused CTD(Compulsive Tweaking Disorder) lol. I agree, a lot of fun to see the changes made in the sim, especially when it improves things.

CTD(Compulsive Tweaking Disorder) is very Infectious indeed - there is no known cure...

It starts out small, "I will just change a texture or date..." and before you know it, your hanging out with the big guns on super mod's and side projects...

You forget to eat, you cannot sleep, every device in the house has a medifire & Googledrive link and every devices internet app's start page is.... SUBSIM

Just incase you have missed something.

BarracudaUAK · 06-10-17, 11:42 PM

whoops, nevermind, I clicked reply in the wrong tab!!!

Barracuda

Bubblehead1980 · 06-19-17, 11:57 PM

Anyone ever look into this? i'm lost on how to make this happen.

06-05-17, 04:14 PM	#1
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,174 Downloads: 621 Uploads: 44	AA guns Likely been asked before but decided to throw this out there. Would it e possible to make it so AA gun crews would target surface vessels? I know silent hunter is often one or the other and I would give up my AA guns if they AI crews would target them again surface vessels with 40 MM, 20 MM .50 cal. plus the deck gun Really would add to things.

06-05-17, 08:11 PM	#2
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	I believe if you go into the respective dat file and change the A0 node to a S0 they may engage both. You'd have to make the changes in the upc file as well, possibly the eqp but I think that's just for the AI. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

06-06-17, 10:09 AM	#4
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,129 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 4	Those are "node" designations used in the DAT file for a vessel, whether ship, air, sub, etc. The letter "M" can be thought of as "Main", as in main armament, followed by a number designation for the gun position. The "S" would be "Secondary", the "A" for Anti-aircraft. There are other designations for other "equipment" used by an "asset". I don't know why, but all this makes me hungry for lunch... @ Bubblehead1980: I still haven't found the thread / post I was referring to earlier about someone having changed their AI guns to being able to target vessels... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

06-06-17, 02:44 PM	#6
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,536 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the info propbeanie and ETR3(SS), all that info has mostly gone right over my head but the important thing is you modders know what it means and does. I'll stick to playing this game rather than modding it it'll be much better all round me thinks. __________________

06-06-17, 04:39 PM	#7
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Everybody learns by digging into it and discovering how the game works and sharing that information with others. Either by posting about it or by releasing a mod. Figuring out how it all works and pushing the limits is, for me at least, half the fun of the game. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

06-06-17, 05:41 PM	#9
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,129 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 4	See, me thinks that Moonlight, just by the asking about the letter designations, had been previously bitten by the contagious little CTD mosquito... it's "venom" began infecting him months ago... it is now beginning its work on his brain. The symptoms will only increase from here. Next, he will want to tweak a CFG file and he will eventually succumb and ~have~ to tweak other files. If he starts asking how the menu_1024_768.ini file works, the infection will have consumed him... What was it we were talking about anyway?... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

06-08-17, 11:51 PM	#11
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,129 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 4	Let me have s7rikeback come in here. He's working on the AI subs for FotRSU, and he has a Sen Toku shooting up a merchant will all guns a-blaziing... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...79#post2489579 very nice stuff... He might know which files to look in... Of course, his "sources" were keltos01 and (of course) ETR33(SS)... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

06-09-17, 05:23 AM	#12
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Guess it wasn't as easy as I thought. Still looking into this more though. The AI has no problem lighting you up with all they've got but the player doing the same seems more difficult. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

06-10-17, 11:42 PM	#14
BarracudaUAK Captain Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 520 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	whoops, nevermind, I clicked reply in the wrong tab!!! Barracuda

06-19-17, 11:57 PM	#15
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,174 Downloads: 621 Uploads: 44	Anyone ever look into this? i'm lost on how to make this happen.