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Old 11-01-16, 12:47 PM   #1
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Probably full of Vacuum tubes (Thermionic valves)
Good against EMPs.
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Good against EMPs.
But not so good against AIM and RIM-7 Sparrows
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Old 11-01-16, 01:24 PM   #3
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But not so good against AIM and RIM-7 Sparrows
Depends on how many of them you have. Don't forget the highly technical and over-engineered Tiger tank and how well that worked when it was buried underneath T-34s.
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Old 11-01-16, 01:32 PM   #5
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Depends on how many of them you have. Don't forget the highly technical and over-engineered Tiger tank and how well that worked when it was buried underneath T-34s.
LOL that, I knew you'd come up with that but on a more serious note, I still believe they are lacking in quality and numbers.

Perhaps in a decade or so
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Perhaps in a decade or so
They're patient, so long as their economy doesn't collapse then they have time to spare.
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It flies in the video and can maneuver. The real question is it's effectiveness in air combat. The U.S, U.K, France ,Russia and others have more experience with combat fighter aircraft. If China does close the gap then it may come down which country has the better air crew training regimen. The effectiveness of the missile armament is part of the equation as well.

By the way jim, the sparrow missile is a Aim-7. it's a medium-range semi-active radar homing air-to-air missile. I'm sure it was a typo.
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A little derailing from the main discussion

Someone mentioned Sparrow and AIM. Those AAW weapons was second, third and fourth generation AAW Weapons. The newest AIM 120D something is a fifth generation AAW weapons. the next generation is the Meteor

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By the way jim, the sparrow missile is a Aim-7. it's a medium-range semi-active radar homing air-to-air missile.
It sure is, I was trying to give an example of the ground-launched SAMs and plane-carried missiles.
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Depends on how many of them you have. Don't forget the highly technical and over-engineered Tiger tank and how well that worked when it was buried underneath T-34s.

Didn't Stalin say that quantity was a quality in itself?
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Didn't Stalin say that quantity was a quality in itself?
They do say so, not to say that the T-34 didn't have a quality of its own, it was a damn fine tank, especially the 85mm version, and part of its excellence was the ease of manufacture. Same goes for the Sherman, you guys could crank those babies out in the thousands, and they weren't terrible tanks, despite what Wehraboos will say.
Ultimately what it boils down to is production, manpower and logistics. Get those three right and the odds improve.

Of course, that's only in a conventional war...
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China will be the enemy in the next big war. Underestimating their ability and determination to shorten further the technology gap until then, and to sharpen their fangs and claws until then, to me does not look like a strategy that promises to win the future.

So with more soberness:

It flies. Its relatively heavy. Not more and not less we see. Inner qualities of the J-20 are not revealed. - Many chips in American weaponry are made in China. The US military potence in the region since years is loosing in lead over China. A victory in a regional war right now already cannot be taken for granted anymore.
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