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Jimbuna 11-01-16 11:42 AM

See China's new fighter jet in action
 
Bit of a copycat but that's nothing unusual these days.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_...lines/37831721

eddie 11-01-16 11:49 AM

Looks kind of familiar,lol Wouldn't trust its reliability though.

Oberon 11-01-16 11:56 AM

No surprises there, it's the popular design for gen 5 fighters. I think the only one doesn't look like that is Japans X-2 Shinshin which looks a bit more like an F-15.

Jimbuna 11-01-16 11:57 AM

Probably full of Vacuum tubes (Thermionic valves) :O:

Oberon 11-01-16 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2443915)
Probably full of Vacuum tubes (Thermionic valves) :O:

Good against EMPs. :yep:

Jimbuna 11-01-16 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2443925)
Good against EMPs. :yep:

But not so good against AIM and RIM-7 Sparrows :03:

Skybird 11-01-16 12:58 PM

China will be the enemy in the next big war. Underestimating their ability and determination to shorten further the technology gap until then, and to sharpen their fangs and claws until then, to me does not look like a strategy that promises to win the future.

So with more soberness:

It flies. Its relatively heavy. Not more and not less we see. Inner qualities of the J-20 are not revealed. - Many chips in American weaponry are made in China. The US military potence in the region since years is loosing in lead over China. A victory in a regional war right now already cannot be taken for granted anymore.

Oberon 11-01-16 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2443926)
But not so good against AIM and RIM-7 Sparrows :03:

Depends on how many of them you have. Don't forget the highly technical and over-engineered Tiger tank and how well that worked when it was buried underneath T-34s. :doh:

Oberon 11-01-16 01:24 PM

http://funnypictures1.fjcdn.com/pict...b3_5851490.jpg

Jimbuna 11-01-16 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2443940)
Depends on how many of them you have. Don't forget the highly technical and over-engineered Tiger tank and how well that worked when it was buried underneath T-34s. :doh:

LOL that, I knew you'd come up with that but on a more serious note, I still believe they are lacking in quality and numbers.

Perhaps in a decade or so :hmmm:

Oberon 11-01-16 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2443943)
Perhaps in a decade or so :hmmm:

They're patient, so long as their economy doesn't collapse then they have time to spare. :yep:

Commander Wallace 11-01-16 03:54 PM

It flies in the video and can maneuver. The real question is it's effectiveness in air combat. The U.S, U.K, France ,Russia and others have more experience with combat fighter aircraft. If China does close the gap then it may come down which country has the better air crew training regimen. The effectiveness of the missile armament is part of the equation as well.

By the way jim, the sparrow missile is a Aim-7. it's a medium-range semi-active radar homing air-to-air missile. I'm sure it was a typo. :yep:

mapuc 11-01-16 04:17 PM

A little derailing from the main discussion

Someone mentioned Sparrow and AIM. Those AAW weapons was second, third and fourth generation AAW Weapons. The newest AIM 120D something is a fifth generation AAW weapons. the next generation is the Meteor

Markus

Commander Wallace 11-01-16 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2443965)
A little derailing from the main discussion

Someone mentioned Sparrow and AIM. Those AAW weapons was second, third and fourth generation AAW Weapons. The newest AIM 120D something is a fifth generation AAW weapons. the next generation is the Meteor

Markus


The Aim-120 missile is an Amraam which is short for advanced medium range air to air missile.

The Meteor Missile is an active radar guided beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM)

Quote: MBDA is a European developer and manufacturer of missiles. It was formed by a merger of French Aérospatiale-Matra Missiles, Italian Alenia Marconi Systems and British Matra BAe Dynamics in December 2001. In 2015 the company had 10,000 employees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_(missile)

Platapus 11-01-16 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2443940)
Depends on how many of them you have. Don't forget the highly technical and over-engineered Tiger tank and how well that worked when it was buried underneath T-34s. :doh:


Didn't Stalin say that quantity was a quality in itself?


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