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Old 08-01-16, 08:46 AM   #76
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I assume that jumping chute-less into a net was just the first step, and the new trend will go from jumping down and onto a trampolin and then gaining altitude and re-board a hovering helicopter.

Okay, maybe better not a helicopter, just in case the upmove overshoots. Needs to be a plane, too, apparently.

Maybe SAM warning devices on military jets can be tuned to warn against upcoming parachuters, too.
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Couldn't hurt for it to be a back up system in case of chute failure.




Now you know why they clear the DZ of all personnel before making heavy equipment drops.
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Old 08-01-16, 09:58 AM   #78
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Those Army humvees cost a pretty penny, what do they go for these days? $220,000?
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By the way, this is the net used. Look at the size. The dimensions.
Man, I can't wait until the military will use this to drop airborne brigades - but after all, I don't know what is possible or not -> only August does!


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Old 08-01-16, 12:38 PM   #80
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^ Yup, that's the problem. If you can get all the needed equipment in there in preparation for the paras, then you could just as well drive the paras there in the first place.
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^ Yup, that's the problem. If you can get all the needed equipment in there in preparation for the paras, then you could just as well drive the paras there in the first place.
Can you please refrain from bringing your venomous common sense and logic into this beautiful land of wonders, yes?
You are disturbing the infantile fantasies and feelings of some people, that is not allowed, you don't know what is possible or not!
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I don't know what is possible or not -> only August does!
Funny up to now you've been claiming that it is NOT possible. How did you put it? Fantasy, nonsensical?, and now you "don't know what is possible or not".
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Funny up to now you've been claiming that it is NOT possible. How did you put it? Fantasy, nonsensical?, and now you "don't know what is possible or not".
*facepalm*
Oh August...
 
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They wont drop troops in nets. Thats stupid.
But they will use the technology the guy used to slow his descent so he survived the sudden deceleration in hitting the net, to enable paratroopers to deploy chutes a lot later making them clay pigeons for a lot shorter time.
Not to mention the tech and know how of hitting that net from that altitude will enable more accurate drops.

God, you're all fixated on that net like me on redheads.
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*facepalm*
Do it again but harder this time.
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God, you're all fixated on that net like me on redheads.

Of course they did, just like those who took a look at the Wright Brothers plane and declared that it would never be suitable for trans-atlantic travel, or Bells telephone declaring it would never replace the telegraph.

And yes getting to the ground without a parachute does have potential military applications.
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And yes getting to the ground without a parachute does have potential military applications.
The final stop method could use work. Nets are unpractical.
Unless you already have a beachead established and you're landing reinforcements.
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Do it again but harder this time.
To end up like you?
No, thanks.

@Betonov
Nothing the guy did helped in any way or made anything clearer.
Of course one can jump into a net from whatever height - just no one did it before for rather obvious reasons.
Explain to me what we know now that we didn't know before, please?

And again, combat jumps aren't conducted anymore.
No air superiority -> no airborne operations.

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The final stop method could use work. Nets are unpractical.
Unless you already have a beachead established and you're landing reinforcements.
Well then why not just land or drop them via plane/parachute?!
 
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@Betonov
Nothing the guy did helped in any way or made anything clearer.
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Maybe not for you.
Maybe not for me.
But maybe smart people are going trough any data he might have produced.

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Well then why not just land or drop them via plane/parachute?!
Because a paratrooper is a large clay pigeon under an even bigger piece of cloth that has a tendency to fail if perfurated by bullets.
The longer the soldier manages not to open the chute, the longer he is a veeeeeeeery hard target to hit and track.
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But maybe smart people are going trough any data he might have produced.
I would imagine a lot of calculations were done to make the jump as safe as possible. Calculations based on data we already know.
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